[arista]

[Mr Carswell suggested the UKIP leader should stand aside
and make way for someone who radiated "sunshine and optimism"
after the party was comfortably
beaten by Labour in the Oldham West and Royton by-election.]


Douglas is being stupid
Farage is the best speaker for UKIP.


http://news.sky.com/story/1608372/fa...for-fresh-face

[Northern Monkey]

Unfortunately UKIPs support is divided around the country in different areas.Farage is a great leader,Probably the best possible leader.If Farage was Labour leader they would win easily.Carswell could not drum up the support that Farage has due to a lack of personality.The big two will always dominate politics(when Corbyn fecks off obviously).There are certain areas which will always be Labour and always Conservative.My UKIP vote for instance was wasted as i live in a very strong Labour area which will never change.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage is by far the best leader. Just listen to him this week predicting EXACTLY what will come of dave's failed Euro trip and how the Tories will try and spin it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Farage is by far the best leader. Just listen to him this week predicting EXACTLY what will come of dave's failed Euro trip and how the Tories will try and spin it

But its not , now
the PM has 3 of his 4 points agreed
he made valid points today Live.

LT you must Keep up to date

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by arista

But its not , now
the PM has 3 of his 4 points agreed
he made valid points today Live.

LT you must Keep up to date

Let me guess.The one he can't get through is the ONLY one we want.The stop of immigrant benefits for atleast four years.The rest are just crap to try and fool us that he's actually achieved something.He thinks the British people are daft.We need to get out as soon as we can.

[lostalex]

Trump's mother was Scottish, does;t that qualify him for Uk citizenship?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Let me guess.The one he can't get through is the ONLY one we want.The stop of immigrant benefits for atleast four years.The rest are just crap to try and fool us that he's actually achieved something.He thinks the British people are daft.We need to get out as soon as we can.

Its a failed PR exercise to bolster the yes campaign. Can we control our borders?

no

Do we have supremacy of our own laws?

no

[arista]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Let me guess.The one he can't get through is the ONLY one we want.The stop of immigrant benefits for atleast four years.The rest are just crap to try and fool us that he's actually achieved something.He thinks the British people are daft.We need to get out as soon as we can.

But the point is he has time to get agreements
he does not think we are daft.

you can nor rule it out.

[joeysteele]

I think Carswell should return to the Conservative party, IF they would have him that is.
Farage is UKIP, the moment he goes they will, in my view really be sunk.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think Carswell should return to the Conservative party, IF they would have him that is.
Farage is UKIP, the moment he goes they will, in my view really be sunk.

No he Stabbed them
No Return


He is so lucky to be a MP

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

If Farage was Labour leader they would win easily.

This has to be a joke?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Carswell must put up and shut up

[arista]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Carswell must put up and shut up

Yes

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

This has to be a joke?

Farage has more personality in his nutsack than Corbyn,Millibland,Brown and Blair put together.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Farage has more personality in his nutsack than Corbyn,Millibland,Brown and Blair put together.

Yeah but I'm more interested in his politics than his personality.

[empire]

I think carswell wants to be the leader, but farage has far to much loyalty with his supporters, one question, is that did farage purge the party, of enough establishment plants, who cause trouble, carswell is killing his own career, by trying to start up another plot to overthrow farage, if he cares so much for the party, he would not do that, if he forces him out, that will give the pro eu parties, the joy of having no party to counter them, in the yes or no vote.