[sampvt]

The way Rylan acts on Bots is shaping the way everyone on the show views sensitive gay issues. He is a really cheap and cheerfull presenter and is way too overtly camp. Emma has been sucked in and last night the shows Producers DELIBERATELY fed Winston to the lions. On the one hand he was acting like a hot blooded straight male pervert which he should have been crucified for, but no, they fed the viewers with something he said years ago and put so called anti gay issues out there when in reality it was his religious views on trial.

The show is getting way too gay sensitive and the gay people I know think they are doing more damage to gays than they know. They think that the show paints gays as persecuted and simpletons that cant handle the worlds views. If Rylan was removed and the show went more hetrosexual, it would be easy to discount PC issues with deliberate and correct actions, but while he is there, the CBB and BB shows are never going to move forward into the future.

Last night 14 people where turned into Heterosexuals for the sake of a vote and some went over the top. That is not the way to see gay people get a fair representation. I am in favour of gay rights, I also have gay friends but I have my own personal views on gay adoption which are shaped by my upbringing and they are my own personal opinions which no man should be able to change.

[Tom4784]

Why do gay people bother you so much?

[MrWong]

With the views that have been expressed on here the last few days I feel like I have gone back in time

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why do gay people bother you so much?

Simple answer is they don't, its you that's trying to make me out to be Homophobic when all I am doing is printing my views which you seem to think are not allowed. If you don't like what I say, then ignore me. You keep telling me to do the same. Please practice what you preach. I am not alone with my views, why keep picking on me.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Simple answer is they don't, its you that's trying to make me out to be Homophobic when all I am doing is printing my views which you seem to think are not allowed. If you don't like what I say, then ignore me. You keep telling me to do the same. Please practice what you preach. I am not alone with my views, why keep picking on me.

Well tbf here Sam there was really no need for you to bring up sexuality and to such a massive extent in your OP, Rylan is a terrible presenter I agree with you on that but that has nothing at all to do with him being gay, I just don't see the need for it to be flung in there as if it's adding to whatever kind of problem you think the show has.

Winston's comment is what sparked debate, he said the words that are being discussed, no one else.

If you say stuff like this:

If Rylan was removed and the show went more hetrosexual,

People are certainly going to think you have a problem with gay people, I wouldn't even know where to start with having a discussion with you about that above comment because if you 'don't have a problem with gays' then what on earth do you mean with that quote?

[Jessica.]

Clocked

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well tbf here Sam there was really no need for you to bring up sexuality and to such a massive extent in your OP, Rylan is a terrible presenter I agree with you on that but that has nothing at all to do with him being gay, I just don't see the need for it to be flung in there as if it's adding to whatever kind of problem you think the show has.

Winston's comment is what sparked debate, he said the words that are being discussed, no one else.

If you say stuff like this:



People are certainly going to think you have a problem with gay people, I wouldn't even know where to start with having a discussion with you about that above comment because if you 'don't have a problem with gays' then what on earth do you mean with that quote?

Firstly let me say for the umpteenth time I DO NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH GAY PEOPLE. I HAVE A GAY PERSON IN MY FAMILY WHOM I LOVE DEARLY. But my point is that before Rylan presented BOTS, there was never any outwardly uncomfortable issues with gay issues. Nowadays we get innuendos, problems, homophobic issues and overtly and uncomfortable to watch sexual acts promoted by a gay man and I for one hate it.

If we had a straight man presenting Bots and he constantly fondled his co presenters in a sexual way like Rylan does with Emma and he gyrated in such a way that portrayed a sexual act, would he last long. I think not, so why can Rylan do it when it offends a certain section of the GBP.

My point is simple, whats good for the goose should be good for the gander and being the way he is, is effectively shoving unsavoury issues down the throats of other minorities or majorities unnecessarily. This forum has gays and straights in equal amounts but when a young gay person gets into a fight with an older straight person, it is viewed a politically incorrect but when its the other way round its a prick or bigot arguing archaic views.

Why is evry issue from old to gay viewed as homophobic. It might be a simple case of principles being used in the wrong way. Nobody h=likes the race card, I don't like the homophobic card and when \I voice my opinion I am regarded as a creep and bigot which I am not.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I DO NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH GAY PEOPLE.

You literally want Rylan to be sacked because he's gay and camp

Originally Posted by sampvt

Emma has been sucked in

Eh lol? Not Emma being turned to the dark side by them gays!

Originally Posted by sampvt

so called anti gay issues out there when in reality it was his religious views on trial.

Winston's views have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with him being a small minded bigot. He should be expected to take responsibility for his views, instead of hiding behind a religion. He's a grown man, he can think for himself.

Originally Posted by sampvt

They think that the show paints gays as persecuted and simpletons that cant handle the worlds views.

"The worlds views" being what exactly? And I hardly think that Winston represents the worlds views on anything, let alone gay issues.

Originally Posted by sampvt

while he is there, the CBB and BB shows are never going to move forward into the future

I'm not a fan of bots, or Rylan, but one thing that can be said about both is that they're certainly not stuck in the past.

Originally Posted by sampvt

I have my own personal views on gay adoption which are shaped by my upbringing and they are my own personal opinions which no man should be able to change.

Maybe you won't change your views, that's a shame considering the society you live in, but they are still going to be challenged and rightly so. You seem to want the shows to 'move into the future' and yet you yourself are unable to move into the present

[MB.]

Ho-ho-homophobia

[LukeB]

What is your problem with gay people? Can't really sack rylan because he's gay.. It's discrimination

[sampvt]

Last night if Winston had have stood behind any of the female guests when they were all dancing and gesticulated sex from behind her, like a doggy fashion type of action, would he be wrong. Answer absolutely.........Why then can Rylan get away with deliberately twerking in front of Winston as a deliberate act of discent and get away with it as just fun entertainment.

If you are going to pillory one, then at least apply the same actions to the other, is that not a fair comment.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Last night if Winston had have stood behind any of the female guests when they were all dancing and gesticulated sex from behind her, like a doggy fashion type of action, would he be wrong. Answer absolutely.........Why then can Rylan get away with deliberately twerking in front of Winston as a deliberate act of discent and get away with it as just fun entertainment.

If you are going to pillory one, then at least apply the same actions to the other, is that not a fair comment.

Rylan made me feel sick last night with his pathetic camp dancing ,deliberately shoving his arse towards Winston

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why do gay people bother you so much?

I was just about to ask the same question. I am reading it the same way as you Dezzy

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

You literally want Rylan to be sacked because he's gay and camp


Eh lol? Not Emma being turned to the dark side by them gays!


Winston's views have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with him being a small minded bigot. He should be expected to take responsibility for his views, instead of hiding behind a religion. He's a grown man, he can think for himself.


"The worlds views" being what exactly? And I hardly think that Winston represents the worlds views on anything, let alone gay issues.


I'm not a fan of bots, or Rylan, but one thing that can be said about both is that they're certainly not stuck in the past.


Maybe you won't change your views, that's a shame considering the society you live in, but they are still going to be challenged and rightly so. You seem to want the shows to 'move into the future' and yet you yourself are unable to move into the present

BRILLIANTLY put. I couldn't have said it better myself. I value sam as a forum member as I value everyone else but people are entitled to voice their opinions and if people disagree this is what the forums are about Peace

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Rylan made me feel sick last night with his pathetic camp dancing ,deliberately shoving his arse towards Winston

It was so funny lmao

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rionablue

BRILLIANTLY put. I couldn't have said it better myself. I value sam as a forum member as I value everyone else but people are entitled to voice their opinions and if people disagree this is what the forums are about Peace

These forums will never be about peace when, if you look up this post about 4 posts to santa, I hate being called a homophobe by people that go unchecked. There are mpre heterophobics on here than homophobes, that's for sure.

[user104658]

You can't make a blatantly homophobic post as your thread starter and then bawl throughout the thread about being accused of homophobia... this is becoming a farce.

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm not a fan of opinions being officially stifled or censored, BUT having a right to hold an opinion is not the same thing as having immunity from criticism of those opinions.

TL;DR if you have opinions that are ****ty and discriminatory, then expect people to take issue with those opinions.


My two cents anyway... the BB post-eviction interviews have been pointless and crap for years. Not even just since C4 / Davina, although she was much better than any of the current rabble, but easily for a few years before that... her interviews also went down the pan.

Every. Single. Interview.

Men, women, gay, straight, black, white, ones that the public loved and the ones that they hated... they've all had poor / shallow / exploitative interviews. It's certainly not just this fella and it certainly has nothing to do with sexuality .


I guess it's like shopping in one superkmarket for years, and EVERYTHING you buy there tastes disgusting, but then you keep going back and buying different things, eating them, and saying "this specific item is awful because...". There comes a time when you just have to accept that the place you're choosing to shop at sells cheap, tasteless food.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

These forums will never be about peace when, if you look up this post about 4 posts to santa, I hate being called a homophobe by people that go unchecked. There are mpre heterophobics on here than homophobes, that's for sure.

Lord

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

It was so funny lmao

Was it ? Really ?

[reece(:]

Your obsession with gays needs to stop, it's worrying

[letmein]

This forum displays the igornance gay people still have to put up with on a daily basis.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Last night 14 people where turned into Heterosexuals for the sake of a vote and some went over the top. That is not the way to see gay people get a fair representation. I am in favour of gay rights, I also have gay friends but I have my own personal views on gay adoption which are shaped by my upbringing and they are my own personal opinions which no man should be able to change.

Erm...ignoring the rest of the post, some of which I cannot actually process right now, what on earth does this part mean?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm...ignoring the rest of the post, some of which I cannot actually process right now, what on earth does this part mean?

Because of all the homophobic crap they were fed, they all decided to throw him under a bus citing homophobic views, ergo they became heterophobic for the short time of the vote instead of voicing individual opinions, they followed like sheep and as the vote went on, it got more vitriolic.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by letmein

This forum displays the igornance gay people still have to put up with on a daily basis.

it all about the gay.

[windyourneckin]

the number of homophobes on this website..