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Old 13-01-2016, 11:47 PM #1
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Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all
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I noticed her blaming Tiffany for Darren smoking too, it makes no sense because he was apparently smoking before the misunderstanding - she seems to have an odd vendetta against Tiffany for no apparent reason
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On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.
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On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.
Wasn't it Darren?
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I thought I would like Kristina but I'm disappointed in her. She is such a sourpuss. Why the hell can't Darren have some cigs in the house without them going on at him; it'll only make him want them all the more. He's a grown man ffs. They'll be driving him to drink next if they don't leave him be.

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On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.
Maybe because Jeremy is not married, Kristina likes her men with a wedding ring
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On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.
It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!
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..I think that it's obvious that she doesn't like Tiffany but I just don't get/see anything racial though...I have no idea why she doesn't like her but sometimes we meet people that we really can't connect with and an 'instant dislike' thing happens...there is no explaining of it because it's often more of a sub-conscious thing..maybe something that we associate with a negative in our lives/you know, just something about that person, a kind of 'trigger'...so from then on in, we're really looking at them from a negative perspective, so will be critical of everything they do/say/are etc...


...we've all I think had that sometime in our lives, that 'instant dislike' thing...if we had it and if that person we felt it for happened to be black and if we felt it in the Big Brother house in full glare of the public who were going to judge us...it could maybe be perceived as racial...?...but surely there has to be more than a dislike of someone for it to be that/a racist thing..?...I'm not keen on Kristina I have to say but I don't see that she's been racist in any way, maybe I've missed that....I just think also that if we say these things when there is no real reason, we're diluting racism, which is a very serious thing....
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On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.
Probably because Jeremy is single and the married ones are more Kristina's type!!
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They would have showed it or tweeted about it.
I'm telling you, Kristina's specific dislike for Tiffany is questionably racist.
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Probably because Jeremy is single and the married ones are more Kristina's type!!
I think Kristina sees Tiff's desire as something of an offence. Something that burdens the subject of her attention.

Its never occurred to that creased faced twit that Tiffany could be attracted to an Irish man because she is black and he is white.

The attraction just doesn't compute for Kristina and her limited thinking.
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I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.

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I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.
I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

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I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...


There's a difference between working with someone and living with someone.
The real person comes out after a while.
Pay attention to interactions between the two of them. If you go back and watch the scenes from the episode where the chaos unfolded over the David Bowie thing, pay attention to Christina's reactions. They're very telling. I had to watch the scene twice to notice it.
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The real person comes out after a while.
Pay attention to interactions between the two of them. If you go back and watch the scenes from the episode where the chaos unfolded over the David Bowie thing, pay attention to Christina's reactions. They're very telling. I had to watch the scene twice to notice it.
Taking a look back at some of those vids, there is no way that the feelings that they displayed for one another are not genuine, no chance.

Have you tried considering the possibility that Tiff might just be......shock horror.....a bit of a bitch? Or to be more specific an individual that has flaws that certain other individuals have no desire to tolerate?

I knew absolutely nothing of her to begin with and after the first few days i found her pretty likeable, but there have been a couple of incidents since that have put me off her, not to the point of disliking her as such but just well, not being particularly fond of her. She does have a softer side, as we saw yesterday, but she needs to sort out that temper.

Taking a look at some of her past clips on youtube i can see that the outburst she has had in the house are not untypical of her, she has a history of flying off the handle and being rather aggressive and confrontational. Is it so hard to believe that certain people may not find that type of behaviour particularly appealing?
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Taking a look back at some of those vids, there is no way that the feelings that they displayed for one another are not genuine, no chance.

Have you tried considering the possibility that Tiff might just be......shock horror.....a bit of a bitch? Or to be more specific an individual that has flaws that certain other individuals have no desire to tolerate?

I knew absolutely nothing of her to begin with and after the first few days i found her pretty likeable, but there have been a couple of incidents since that have put me off her, not to the point of disliking her as such but just well, not being particularly fond of her. She does have a softer side, as we saw yesterday, but she needs to sort out that temper.

Taking a look at some of her past clips on youtube i can see that the outburst she has had in the house are not untypical of her, she has a history of flying off the handle and being rather aggressive and confrontational. Is it so hard to believe that certain people may not find that type of behaviour particularly appealing?
I can't help thinking that something went down between Tiffany and Kristina that wasn't shown. Kristina obviously can't stand her, and there has to be a better reason for that than the Angie/Tiffany misunderstanding. There was all that talk about the HM's being afraid of Tiffany and not feeling safe with her in the house but no explanation of WHY. The night that was all going on it showed Kristina looking more distressed than anyone else and she made the comment that she wouldn't feel safe sleeping in the same room as her. She looked wretched and she had obviously being crying. It's all very puzzling.
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I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...
I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with race. She'll sleep with anyone.
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That's not true. They have to be male and married.
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