[Vicky.]

Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all

[Daniel-X]

Baa. Baa. Baa.

[Amy Jade]

I noticed her blaming Tiffany for Darren smoking too, it makes no sense because he was apparently smoking before the misunderstanding - she seems to have an odd vendetta against Tiffany for no apparent reason

[MrWong]

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

[Denver]

I think they have had words which haven't been shown

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MrWong

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

Wasn't it Darren?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MrWong

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

Maybe because Jeremy is not married, Kristina likes her men with a wedding ring

[Edna Mode]

I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.

[jet]

I thought I would like Kristina but I'm disappointed in her. She is such a sourpuss. Why the hell can't Darren have some cigs in the house without them going on at him; it'll only make him want them all the more. He's a grown man ffs. They'll be driving him to drink next if they don't leave him be.

[mr rochester]

Her biggest problem is that she keeps too far under the radar. If she didn't she'd be featured more...

[LukeB]

jealousy

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Only times she has been featured tonight is bitching about Tiffany..everything seems to be Tiffs fault. Darren smoking is apparently Tiffanys fault for the David thing, despite Darren smoking before that too? Like..I don't understand where the obsession has come from at all

I said I couldn't stand her even before she entered the house. it seems a lot of the professional dancers on Strictly have said she is a bit of a diva also. She isn't even pretty I was gobsmacked that three men left relationships to go off with her. Horrible woman. A smile would break her face

[jet]

Originally Posted by Edna Mode

I know the racism thing has been thrown around a lot on here, and although I *DO* think that racist thoughts and judgements have most likely come into HMs minds and influenced certain attitudes, I'm not saying that they've influenced every anti-Tiff perspective in the house. With that said, I DEFINITELY DEFINITELY think race has come into play for Christina. Without a doubt. She's acting like Tiffany doesn't even exist, like she's not a person, like she's a coat hanger or a chair. She was the one who suddenly felt "unsafe" and "threatened" when Tiffany started yelling, even though she was in no danger whatsoever.

While I do think racist attitudes have been subtly shown, in the case of Daniella and sometimes John, I'm not one to cry race over instances where it's completely left out; however, as tensions brew in the house, certain attitudes have been adopted and certain comments have been made that are certainly questionable, given their contexts, intonations, and implications.
Trust me when I say I'm an incredibly politically incorrect person; I too think it's silly to casually blame racism for basic obstacles and disputes. However, even my oblivious ass can see that this woman is giving off one HELL of a racist vibe.

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

[Edna Mode]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

There's a difference between working with someone and living with someone.
The real person comes out after a while.
Pay attention to interactions between the two of them. If you go back and watch the scenes from the episode where the chaos unfolded over the David Bowie thing, pay attention to Christina's reactions. They're very telling. I had to watch the scene twice to notice it.

[BB4fan]

Who cares what Kristina thinks it's not like we get to see her on TV enough to actually form an opinion on her.i

[Edna Mode]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Who cares what Kristina thinks it's not like we get to see her on TV enough to actually form an opinion on her.i

Not to mention she has the personality of a shoe horn.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't much like her, but I haven't noticed any racism from her at all.
On Strictly Come Dancing, over time she has been partnered with 2 black men and seemed to get on great with them...maybe she's just anti - Tiffany...

I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with race. She'll sleep with anyone.

[Jase.]

Ugh. She's such a ****ing non-entity. Bore off, love.

[jet]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

I'm sure she doesn't have a problem with race. She'll sleep with anyone.

That's not true. They have to be male and married.

[iRyan]

It's inferential racism.

[Stormy]

I don't know if I'd call it racism as Kristina hasn't really said anything that would point to that....but I can see how people would feel that way, because she seemed to have taken an instant dislike to Tiffany from the start without any justifiable reason.

She excuses/forgives other housemates when they have had it out with Angie (Jonathan's losing it with Angie and calling her names; Gemma's shouting match with Angie; Daniella going off on Angie when she thought Angie was angry at her.) Kristina can overlook them all without a second thought.

Yet with Tiffany, she won't forgive her or let it go...Ignores her and constantly makes faces or nasty comments about her. I'd like to know why she dislikes Tiff so much.

[reece(:]

She's latching onto queen Tiff for airtime, dullard!

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by MrWong

On the live feed just now Kristina said she found it shocking that Tiff fancy's Jeremy. Weird.

Not sure why that's so shocking.

It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

It's more shocking to fancy other people's husbands!

Zing!

[Ammi]

..I think that it's obvious that she doesn't like Tiffany but I just don't get/see anything racial though...I have no idea why she doesn't like her but sometimes we meet people that we really can't connect with and an 'instant dislike' thing happens...there is no explaining of it because it's often more of a sub-conscious thing..maybe something that we associate with a negative in our lives/you know, just something about that person, a kind of 'trigger'...so from then on in, we're really looking at them from a negative perspective, so will be critical of everything they do/say/are etc...


...we've all I think had that sometime in our lives, that 'instant dislike' thing...if we had it and if that person we felt it for happened to be black and if we felt it in the Big Brother house in full glare of the public who were going to judge us...it could maybe be perceived as racial...?...but surely there has to be more than a dislike of someone for it to be that/a racist thing..?...I'm not keen on Kristina I have to say but I don't see that she's been racist in any way, maybe I've missed that....I just think also that if we say these things when there is no real reason, we're diluting racism, which is a very serious thing....