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1) Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).

2) The 'Bedroom Tax' was part of the Welfare Reform Act 2007 proposed by Labour.

3) Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again?.

4) The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions: The tax grab has cost workers £118bn since 1997. (Office for Budget Responsibility).

5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.

6) The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.

7) Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).

8) In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.

9) £660 million has been cut from Labour run NHS Wales over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.

10) When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.

11) Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.

12) Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.

13) It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.

14) Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.

15) Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.

16) In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.

17) Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.

18) Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.

19) British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.

20) Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.

21) The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.

22) The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).

23) When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.

24) Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.

25) Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.

26) In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.

27) Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.

28) Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.

29) Under Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.

30) Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.

31) Labour wants to charge patients. Lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.

32) Labour signed the Lisbon Treaty which gave away powers to the EU and reduced UK sovereignty and the power of our Westminster Parliament.

33) Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them.

34) Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began.

35) Labour destroyed our border controls then with the help of the BBC denounced anybody who voiced concerns about mass immigration as racists.

36) Labour councils are the biggest users of zero contracts.

37) Under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider.

38) The last Labour government doubled the rate of income tax on the lowest paid.

39) Labour claims to be the party of the working man, but they have absolutely destroyed the working class through mass immigration.

40) Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed).

41) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us.

42) Labour opposes democracy in Britain by denying the British people a referendum on EU membership.

43) Labour Party Manifesto Pledge 2001: 'We will not introduce top-up fees'.

44) One of the reasons for high energy prices is EU driven 'Green Taxes' brought in by the last Labour government.

45) It was Labour under Blair who handed control of British food regulation to the EU, (Regulation EC no 178/2002).

46) Remember when Tony Blair and Labour essentially traded guns for access to oil with Libya.

47) The Labour Party paid only £14,000 in tax last year on total income of £33.3 million. (The Spectator, 30/07/2014).

48) If Ed Miliband can easily stab his own brother in the back, imagine what he will do to us if he ever becomes Prime Minister.

49) (Illegal?) Wars.

50) Jeremy Corbyn.

51) Corbyn wants to keep the nuclear submarines but without the war heads on them.
It's like Barack Obama saying you can all keep your guns cos were not selling bullets anymore.

52) Would like to chat at length with the Argies about handing back the falklands.

53) Wants to have tea and scones with ISIS.

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1) Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).

2) The 'Bedroom Tax' was part of the Welfare Reform Act 2007 proposed by Labour.

3) Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again?.

4) The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions: The tax grab has cost workers £118bn since 1997. (Office for Budget Responsibility).

5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.

6) The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.

7) Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).

8) In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.

9) £660 million has been cut from Labour run NHS Wales over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.

10) When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.

11) Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.

12) Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.

13) It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.

14) Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.

15) Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.

16) In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.

17) Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.

18) Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.

19) British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.

20) Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.

21) The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.

22) The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).

23) When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.

24) Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.

25) Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.

26) In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.

27) Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.

28) Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.

29) Under Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.

30) Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.

31) Labour wants to charge patients. Lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.

32) Labour signed the Lisbon Treaty which gave away powers to the EU and reduced UK sovereignty and the power of our Westminster Parliament.

33) Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them.

34) Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began.

35) Labour destroyed our border controls then with the help of the BBC denounced anybody who voiced concerns about mass immigration as racists.

36) Labour councils are the biggest users of zero contracts.

37) Under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider.

38) The last Labour government doubled the rate of income tax on the lowest paid.

39) Labour claims to be the party of the working man, but they have absolutely destroyed the working class through mass immigration.

40) Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed).

41) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us.

42) Labour opposes democracy in Britain by denying the British people a referendum on EU membership.

43) Labour Party Manifesto Pledge 2001: 'We will not introduce top-up fees'.

44) One of the reasons for high energy prices is EU driven 'Green Taxes' brought in by the last Labour government.

45) It was Labour under Blair who handed control of British food regulation to the EU, (Regulation EC no 178/2002).

46) Remember when Tony Blair and Labour essentially traded guns for access to oil with Libya.

47) The Labour Party paid only £14,000 in tax last year on total income of £33.3 million. (The Spectator, 30/07/2014).

48) If Ed Miliband can easily stab his own brother in the back, imagine what he will do to us if he ever becomes Prime Minister.

49) (Illegal?) Wars.

50) Jeremy Corbyn.
Oooh (gush) Thank you for this (Fawn) You are so correct in all you have written here Johnny (ass-lick) Oh brilliant.

Seriously Johnny - A brilliant post and yet more painstaking work full of truth and facts which will be ignored by some. but point number 12. : "Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments." is ONE MAIN reason WHY the NHS is in the state it is in AND why some hospitals have gone bankrupt.
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Oooh (gush) Thank you for this (Fawn) You are so correct in all you have written here Johnny (ass-lick) Oh brilliant.

Seriously Johnny - A brilliant post and yet more painstaking work full of truth and facts which will be ignored by some.
Hi Kirk,
There is no getting away from the facts so i thought it best to post a few. Will people be prepared to accept those facts? Doubt it,blinkers will be on an no amount of facts will persuade them otherwise. I have more facts on the shambles that is the labour party and why everyone should stick with the brilliant David Cameron but we'd be here all day reading through them all.
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How long did it take you to copy and paste that from a post over a year old on digital spy?

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2004778

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How long did it take you to copy and paste that from a post over a year old on digital spy?

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2004778
Not long, about 10 seconds.
The facts all stand none the less.
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Not long, about 10 seconds.
The facts all stand none the less.
Even #48? About Ed Milliband becoming PM? . I guess that'll be in 2056 when he's running against the reincarnated robot-clone of Napoleon...

Otherwise Johnny - this is a smear-piece. It's meaningless. Focusses on the negatives of one side of the coin without balance and - notably - only bothering to contrast with the Tories once or twice in the entire 50 statements. Why is that, I wonder? Laziness? Poor research? A simple lack of contrasting positives that would make these arguments in any way valid?

Oh right. You don't know. Because you didn't write it, you just drooled over it and then hit copy-paste .
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There was nothing wrong with most of those ides in their original and controlled plans at their earlier implementation.

Not all I agreed with which is why I was never a labour supporter then anyway.

However the argument is defeated,for me anyway, by the fact this govt under Cameron has added extreme to extreme as to most of those ideas and plans and taken them to even far more unacceptable levels.

So for me, rather than being reasons not to vote labour, a good number of them are more like 50 reasons, to not vote Conservative for the way they have manipulated some of these previous actions to make life a misery for many and waste resources to suit their own selfish and heartless agenda.

Good post in the OP, if you realise that the extensions,the extreme and heartless extensions to such ideas have actually been done by 'this govt' not the previous govt from the much smaller and milder implementations they originally put in place, as to most of them.

A good post it is called overall, Ed Miliband is now a backbencher to deal with that rather petty point,Politics is riddled with people stabbing each other in the back.
Anyway people did not support Labour for govt under Ed Miliband, that is not now a reason with any validity whatsoever to not do so now as to that particular issue for one.
Extremely petty.

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I currently have many reasons why i would not vote Labour.It's a shame that these fundamental reasons get in the way because i agree with some of Labours ideas.I also have many reasons that i would'nt vote Conservative.
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51) Corbyn wants to keep the nuclear submarines but without the war heads on them.
It's like Barack Obama saying you can all keep your guns cos were not selling bullets anymore.
52) Would like to chat at length with the Argies about handing back the falklands.
53) Wants to have tea and scones with ISIS.
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Shall I find a list of 1000 reasons not to vote tory? it wouldn't take long.
I only need 3,their rotten NHS policy, their heartless and gutless welfare reforms which are actually hitting the genuine weakest,sick and disabled.
Finally the obscenity of the bedroom tax plans under the coalition govt.
Of which, I still hold the Lib Dems as equally guilty of that pathetic policy,the way they decided to enact it.

Three things I care about passionately and which this govt,has been in my view a shocking, cowardly disgrace as to.
With a leader too who became PM after bare faced lies that he told the voters as to the NHS.

Never for me,would I even ever look at the Conservatives again with any admiration as long as rotten, heartless polices like these are being done by them.

I don't need 1000,1000 policies like the 2 I have mentioned would surely be impossible 'wouldn't they'??,even from gutless heartless political con men/women like this PM and some of his cabinet.

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I only need 3,their rotten NHS policy, their heartless and gutless welfare reforms which are actually hitting the genuine weakest,sick and disabled.

Of which, I still hold te Lib Dems as equally guilty of that pathetic policy,the way they decided to enact it.

Three things I care about passionately and which this govt,as been in my view a shocking, cowardly disgrace as to.
With a leader too who became PM after bare faced lies that he told the voters as to the NHS.

Never for me,would I even ever look at the Conservatives again with any admiration as long as rotten, heartless polices like these are being done by them.

I don't need 1000,1000 policies like the 2 I have mentioned would surely be impossible 'wouldn't they'??,even from gutless heartless political con men/women like this PM and some of his cabinet.

Finally the obscenity of the bedroom tax plans under the coalition govt.
2) The 'Bedroom Tax' was part of the Welfare Reform Act 2007 proposed by Labour.
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Odd logic, let's not criticise the conservatives for what they have done, let's criticise Labour for what they didn't do :/
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