[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

honesty is optimism

Cynicism is healthy

[Jamesy]

I'm surprised no one quoted him from Radio 1 earlier. I was driving home and there was an interview with him (or a recorded one) and he literally said: "I know there are a lot of NHS workers listening in right now. Just to let you know I am forcing the contract on junior doctors and we are coming after you next".

What a dick.

[Kizzy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6867381.html

[DemolitionRed]

According to the Economist, 90 per cent of junior doctors said they would consider quitting.

What they can't do is accept a contract that's both bad for patients, bad for them and bad for the future.

[Kizzy]

Ah well our autocratic system just sorted it so..

[arista]

Balanced report on Ch4HD News
was just on.

Jon Snow was live outside with Jr. Doctors
and had a studio interview with Hunt

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I'm surprised no one quoted him from Radio 1 earlier. I was driving home and there was an interview with him (or a recorded one) and he literally said: "I know there are a lot of NHS workers listening in right now. Just to let you know I am forcing the contract on junior doctors and we are coming after you next".

What a dick.

I just laughed, and then pulled this face:

The man is an authoritarian, delusional wanker.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I'm surprised no one quoted him from Radio 1 earlier. I was driving home and there was an interview with him (or a recorded one) and he literally said: "I know there are a lot of NHS workers listening in right now. Just to let you know I am forcing the contract on junior doctors and we are coming after you next".

What a dick.

Erm...did he actually say that?!

[Kizzy]

I wouldn't put it past him ... tosser.

[Vicky.]

If he did then he is even more of a moron than I originally thought.

Mind he will be fine when all our NHS staff pack up and go work somewhere where they are appreciated...as he can afford private healthcare..so why should he care about pissing off NHS staff

[Jamesy]

Yes he did say that. Pretty much the minute I got home I texted my mum it before I forgot what he said exactly. The way he said it made me laugh (and also made me think 'twat'), he sounded like some killer with a plan.

I work in the NHS myself (he's coming to get me ) so I wasn't impressed with the comment.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Best word for him rhymes with his surname I reckon

Complete punt, I agree. There's always a scapegoat - I feel sorry for any junior doctors having to deal with this ****.

[Jack_]

^ do you know what time it was? I checked both Newsbeat's and couldn't find anything, might've been in one of the shorter bulletins

@Jamesy

[Jamesy]

It was around 5pm (or there abouts)

[DemolitionRed]

Rumour has it that he only works three days a week.

[MTVN]

I find it very hard to believe Hunt said that tbh, he has maintained from the start that he supports junior doctors and has tried to avoid criticising them. You can completely disagree with that but that is at least what Hunt is trying to claim. He has reserved most of the criticism for the BMA.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find it very hard to believe Hunt said that tbh, he has maintained from the start that he supports junior doctors and has tried to avoid criticising them. You can completely disagree with that but that is at least what Hunt is trying to claim. He has reserved most of the criticism for the BMA.

Ignoring people isn't supporting them, I'm going to comb the web till I find that quote now

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ignoring people isn't supporting them, I'm going to comb the web till I find that quote now

But in any interview of Hunt's that I've seen he always claims that he supports junior doctors and does care about them. I think if he said something like that it would be quite widely reported.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But in any interview of Hunt's that I've seen he always claims that he supports junior doctors and does care about them. I think if he said something like that it would be quite widely reported.

What he says and what he does are two different things, never once has he sat down with a junior DR and had a discussion, as seen today he actively ignored questions posed. Where is evidence of this support?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What he says and what he does are two different things, never once has he sat down with a junior DR and had a discussion, as seen today he actively ignored questions posed. Where is evidence of this support?

I didn't say they were the same, I was just questioning whether he really would have said that.

Hunt and the government have taken part in painstaking negotiations for three years though. The final sticking points were over pay; the government made an offer which assured doctors of a much more generous deal than firefighters, police officers etc. get and it was rejected.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I didn't say they were the same, I was just questioning whether he really would have said that.

Hunt and the government have taken part in painstaking negotiations for three years though. The final sticking points were over pay; the government made an offer which assured doctors of a much more generous deal than firefighters, police officers etc. get and it was rejected.

painstaking? Hunt wouldn't budge on 22 points, how can you suggest the deal is generous, who knows what it is or what impact it will have.
Not sure how drawing comparisons between doctors and firefighters is relevant here either.

[joeysteele]

The actual deal is far away from how Hunt presents it, it is because the Junior Doctors themselves have gone through it with a fine toothcomb and have found the many flaws that exist in it.

The only person I can see trying to mislead on this is Hunt himself and he has made a right pigs ear of getting this a done deal for this govt.

It is massive failure on his part that he now threatens to impose it,that says all about him really and nothing about the Junior Doctors, who he ignores and then,to add insult to injury, dismisses the concerns of them too.

[the truth]

cant find that quote

[joeysteele]

As to misleading,well the govts own negotiator furnished yesterday that the heads of 20 health authorities would support the govt in imposing this contract.

On the news briefly today,no less than 10 of them, half in fact, have said they want their signatures removed as they do not support the imposing of this contract by the govt.

We are being misled and for me it looks far more like the misleading as to the proper content of the contract and the means to justify imposing it against the Junior Doctors wishes, is all being done from the govt and its sources, probably no one else.

[Kizzy]

Parliament could be set to debate the idea of a vote of 'no confidence' against Jeremy Hunt after a petition calling for a debate on the issue gained more than 200,000 signatures in less than two days.
The petition was posted on the parliamentary website amid a growing backlash against the Health Secretary after he announced he would be imposing junior doctors contracts despite opposition from the medical community.
Hunt has stood firm on his decision saying it is "not tenable"for him to give in to a union "if it's the wrong thing for patients".


http://www.itv.com/news/2016-02-13/c...00-signatures/