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Old 17-02-2016, 08:40 AM #26
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It could be that that was exactly what she wanted to do
It will affect him in the same way suicides have affected IDS
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It could be that that was exactly what she wanted to do
..possibly Jax but I don't think it's as simplistic as that/although from a personal experience of mine of someone who took their own life..(and those are the only things really we can draw on for our thoughts for these things/personal experiences etc..)...I do see a very worrying connection.../I don't really want to post my thoughts atm, with the small about of details we have and not knowing the full slant of the media either...
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She is a beautiful young woman, and in the photo is glowing with vitality and happiness, and it is a genuine tragedy if she is dead - more so if it is by her own hands.

I cannot help but say though, that IF it is suicide, and IF she has named the idiot Hunt and his policies as THE reason, then in my opinion, she MUST have been suffering from some type of psychological problems, becaused no normal person would even contemplate suicide over this, no matter how angry or depressed one may get as a result.

I still pray that for her sake and her family and friends, that she is found alive and well.
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She hasn't been declared thought dead yet so in spite of the almost clear signs that may be the case let's hope for a positive end here.

However,things look bad especially as to the letter/note.
As to any reference to Jeremy Hunt,well no way can he be blamed ad I would guess the reference to him in that letter/note would be for sure negative towards him.
Often it can be the oddest and even smallest of things that pushes someone over that final edge if they already are under intense pressures in either or both of their personal and /or professional lives.

Let's wait and see what is the outcome of this disappearance however and like Kirk, I will too hope for a positive outcome.
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Killing yourself to try and make a point to a politician who is so far removed from your profession that he's never going to 'get' it is the ultimate foolish decision and I hope that she's found alive, and that if not, she didn't throw her life away because of his stupid policy... policies can be overturned, there's strike action, there are a raft of options available to gifted young minds like junior doctors to force change... killing yourself is not one of them. :/
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Poor girl, clearly suffered from mental issues, she had everything including a great job. Some people just can't see how lucky they are.

So many junior doctors with no grip on reality.

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Killing yourself to try and make a point to a politician who is so far removed from your profession that he's never going to 'get' it is the ultimate foolish decision and I hope that she's found alive, and that if not, she didn't throw her life away because of his stupid policy... policies can be overturned, there's strike action, there are a raft of options available to gifted young minds like junior doctors to force change... killing yourself is not one of them. :/
..it's probably not making a point Z...do you recall the person I knew who committed suicide..?..there were very specific noted from her also/very specific 'blame' in those moments, in that mind of chaos/confusion...because an unhealthy mind can 'fixate' on something/a real thing that they feel responsible for their unhappiness/stress...'their hate', if you like...because of a mind that needs help and lots of things can build and build on the stress, can take the mind into not being able to take another layer...if there is a way to connect...(imo..)..it's that the mental health system and care atm is failing many people who really need it.../but even then, I don't know if that's the case here, if anything could have been detected, because it isn't always...
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Poor girl, clearly suffered from mental issues, she had everything including a great job. Some people just can't see how lucky they are.

So many junior doctors with no grip on reality.
Define 'reality'.

She has been described as 'stressed' and 'exhausted' ...That's the reality.
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She is a beautiful young woman, and in the photo is glowing with vitality and happiness, and it is a genuine tragedy if she is dead - more so if it is by her own hands.

I cannot help but say though, that IF it is suicide, and IF she has named the idiot Hunt and his policies as THE reason, then in my opinion, she MUST have been suffering from some type of psychological problems, becaused no normal person would even contemplate suicide over this, no matter how angry or depressed one may get as a result.

I still pray that for her sake and her family and friends, that she is found alive and well.
Well said Kirk,no way can anyone be blamed if this girl has done away with herself,she must have had many other issues too,the note could merely be a smokescreen for something much deeper,poor girl,hope she is found ok.
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..it's probably not making a point Z...do you recall the person I knew who committed suicide..?..there were very specific noted from her also/very specific 'blame' in those moments, in that mind of chaos/confusion...because an unhealthy mind can 'fixate' on something/a real thing that they feel responsible for their unhappiness/stress...'their hate', if you like...because of a mind that needs help and lots of things can build and build on the stress, can take the mind into not being able to take another layer...if there is a way to connect...(imo..)..it's that the mental health system and care atm is failing many people who really need it.../but even then, I don't know if that's the case here, if anything could have been detected, because it isn't always...
Of course, if she's killed herself like this and over this in particular, that's not a healthy mind making a rational choice... just so sad
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And the guy who set himself on fire and died outside Kensington palace? A nurse sacked for whistleblowing.

'He told the Press Association Mr Abdullah had an “exemplary background” - even winning an award for excellence when he graduated from Buckinghamshire New University.

“I want to get the message out there about the way that the whole thing was terribly handled - it was badly handled because of a bad culture that they have. It just seems to be that if anyone steps out of line they are literally just crushed into the ground,” he said.

“They treated him disgustingly - it pushed him into the depression and got us in the position we are in today.”

It is understood Mr Abdullah was one of 17 people to sign a petition in support of a colleague after a patient complained.'

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Define 'reality'.

She has been described as 'stressed' and 'exhausted' ...That's the reality.
yes under labour and snp, the junior doctors can work up to 91 hours, the more caring tories have reduced this to 72 hours....
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A body believed to be Rose's has been found

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Not surprising news but deeply distressing nonetheless. My sympathies are with her loved ones. R.I.P. Rose.
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I'm glad they have found her. Her parents can at least now bury her.
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Poor lass. R.I.P.
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Yes found at Dorset seaside

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Oh my So near to me as well, it's been all over the news.

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