[Ammi]

...there isn't a huge amount of information/details about this atm...

Youtube video

A male who authorities say was wielding a broomstick was shot and critically injured by Salt Lake City officers on Saturday night, touching off hours of unrest as officers wore riot gear and bystanders threw rocks and bottles.

The male shot by two Salt Lake City police officers was in critical condition at a local hospital on Sunday morning after being struck twice in the torso, according to detective Ken Hansen with the Unified police department, which is investigating the shooting.

Hansen did not have details about the male’s identity or age, but a bystander told local newspapers that the male was a teenager.

Salt Lake City police detective Greg Wilking said two police officers are on administrative leave as a result of the shooting.

Hansen said the shooting occurred when two officers were called around 8pm to break up a fight, near a downtown homeless shelter that stands next to a shopping mall and movie theater.

When the officers arrived, they found the male in the street, hitting another person with the broomstick, Hansen said. Officers tried to break up the fight, but the male with the broomstick tried to attack an officer, according to the detective.

One or both of the police officers shot the male, hitting him in the upper and lower torso, Hansen said. He did not have details about the identity of the other person involved in the fight, what prompted the dispute, or whether anyone else was injured.

“There’s still a lot to go through,” Hansen said. Police were not releasing the identity of the officers, he added.

Bystander Selam Mohammad told the Salt Lake Tribune and Deseret News that his teenage friend was shot by police.

Mohammad said his friend was holding the broomstick at his side when officers arrived, and that police shot him as soon as he turned around.

Hansen did not have details on Sunday about how many shots were fired or how far away the male with the broomstick was from police when they pulled their guns. He did not know the size of the broomstick or whether it was sharpened. He also did not know whether the male had a gun, knife or any other weapon.

After the shooting, bystanders began yelling obscenities and throwing rocks and bottles at police, who called in about 100 officers to help.

Hansen said one officer was hit with a bottle, but he did not have details about whether that officer or any other was injured. He did not have details about any arrests and directed those questions to Salt Lake City police.



Salt Lake City police did not return messages on Sunday morning. Wilking had few details about what prompted the fight or how the shooting unfolded.

“Our officers arriving on scene encountered a lot of hostile people upset about what had taken place,” Wilking told the Deseret News.

Police, including some wearing helmets and carrying riot shields, barricaded four surrounding city blocks. A light rail stop was closed.

“We’re locking down the area, barricading off streets and having a strong officer presence in the area,” Wilking told the newspaper on Saturday night. He said some people were detained and witnesses were being interviewed at police headquarters.

“There were pockets of that disturbance for hours,” Hansen said on Sunday.

He said the protesters throwing rocks and bottles were people hanging out near the shelter. He didn’t know if they were homeless, but he said they were not customers of the nearby shopping center.

Hansen said the area was relatively busy, with people visiting the shopping center and restaurants and others hanging out near the shelter and homeless facilities.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...omstick-unrest

[arista]

Yes Fast Shooting again.

Better to lay flat on the ground

[Tom4784]

Ridiculous, if he had a knife or a deadly weapon then I could understand but they honestly couldn't have just tased him? I hope these police officers face charges, to resort to their guns as a first resort when there's no justification for it is basically murder.

[Mystic Mock]

The American Police need better mental training as they seem to be too unprepared for these sorts of situations.

I honestly don't know what they're being taught in their training but whatever it is it's not working as they're suffering from more accidents than most Police Forces in Europe.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ridiculous, if he had a knife or a deadly weapon then I could understand but they honestly couldn't have just tased him? I hope these police officers face charges, to resort to their guns as a first resort when there's no justification for it is basically murder.

..and also two gunshots fired into him...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The American Police need better mental training as they seem to be too unprepared for these sorts of situations.

I honestly don't know what they're being taught in their training but whatever it is it's not working as they're suffering from more accidents than most Police Forces in Europe.

It's not a problem with the entire police force or how they are trained, it's more to do with the fact that these Dirty Harry wannabes manage to get hired and get their hands on these guns when they shouldn't be trusted with an inflatable bat.

For every bad cop there's thousands of good ones but the Police forces of America really need to pay more attention to who they recruit because these bad cops shouldn't be allowed to be security guards at a shopping centre, never mind gun wielding police officers. It's the actions of a few that are affecting trust between the public and the police force and these murderers shouldn't be protected and the bar needs to be set higher when it comes to new recruits.

One incident of Police Brutality is too much, nevermind having them occur on a regular basis.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I think it I wait till there is actually some real information rather than speculation....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not a problem with the entire police force or how they are trained, it's more to do with the fact that these Dirty Harry wannabes manage to get hired and get their hands on these guns when they shouldn't be trusted with an inflatable bat.

For every bad cop there's thousands of good ones but the Police forces of America really need to pay more attention to who they recruit because these bad cops shouldn't be allowed to be security guards at a shopping centre, never mind gun wielding police officers. It's the actions of a few that are affecting trust between the public and the police force and these murderers shouldn't be protected and the bar needs to be set higher when it comes to new recruits.

One incident of Police Brutality is too much, nevermind having them occur on a regular basis.

Oh I agree with most of The Police seem to be able to do their jobs properly.

Maybe you're right and that they need to recruit better I don't know, either way they're definitely gonna have to sort something out otherwise Civilians will never trust The Police in the US if they feel like they're gonna get gunned down at any moment.

[Z]

Are you saying this was... a witch hunt?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think it I wait till there is actually some real information rather than speculation....

Valid Point LT.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think it I wait till there is actually some real information rather than speculation....

I wait with bated breath to discover just what your opinion on this will be LT. Will you side with the kid? Will you side with the cops? It's almost impossible to say, as we have absolutely no prior experience of your opinion on these sorts of cases. Exciting stuff.

[Alf]

Did anybody hear the news of the female cop shot dead on her first day in the job?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-penalty.html

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I wait with bated breath to discover just what your opinion on this will be LT. Will you side with the kid? Will you side with the cops? It's almost impossible to say, as we have absolutely no prior experience of your opinion on these sorts of cases. Exciting stuff.

well i am not siding with the brainless morons who threw rocks and bottles at the law enforcement officers

so chalk that one off right now

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Did anybody hear the news of the female cop shot dead on her first day in the job?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-penalty.html

Horrific

And as I always say, they wake up each day knowing it could be their last to protect the lives of others

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think it I wait till there is actually some real information rather than speculation....

That kind of restraint has no place in Serious Debates LT, what are you thinking...?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well i am not siding with the brainless morons who threw rocks and bottles at the law enforcement officers

so chalk that one off right now

You think that it was his fault for brandishing a stick around them / their job is dangerous / better than a dead Cop / anyone would do the same if their life was on the line / add some links to shot cops in the US.

Its groundhog day again on TiBB Debates.

[DemolitionRed]

Sounds like a very volatile situation.
According to KSL, this is more or less a no go area where crime is rife and police officers often fear for their lives.

I'm not in any way excusing the shooting of a 17 year old boy. You can't afford to make a mistake with a gun.

What sort of training do these armed cops get?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Did anybody hear the news of the female cop shot dead on her first day in the job?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-penalty.html

You think this justifies police brutality?

It's a tragedy that has no bearing on this situation or a major issue facing both the US public and the police.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You think this justifies police brutality?

It's a tragedy that has no bearing on this situation or a major issue facing both the US public and the police.

Yes and also Black lives matter are a racist organisation in the same mould as the KKK.

And this will be the last time I ever reply to you, because the last time I replied to you on a subject, you used your power as a mod to delete my post and infract me, just because you didn't agree with me.

[Denver]

These police officers need 2 gunshots into them.

Is this how they treat their kids at home? Tidy your room or I'll put a bullet in you.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You think that it was his fault for brandishing a stick around them / their job is dangerous / better than a dead Cop / anyone would do the same if their life was on the line / add some links to shot cops in the US.

Its groundhog day again on TiBB Debates.

Sorry but are you saying that they were right to attack law enfoprcement officers?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Adam.

These police officers need 2 gunshots into them.

Is this how they treat their kids at home? Tidy your room or I'll put a bullet in you.

that is one sick and silly thing to say


jesus wept

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes and also Black lives matter are a racist organisation in the same mould as the KKK.

And this will be the last time I ever reply to you, because the last time I replied to you on a subject, you used your power as a mod to delete my post and infract me, just because you didn't agree with me.

This is so ridiculous that I can't even process it. Pray tell how is Black Lives Matter, an organisation that protests against Police Brutality (A crime that affects mostly black people in America) the same as a criminal organisation that partakes in Murder and Terrorism?

You don't need to answer that, it's a rhetorical question. The answer is that you can't tell the difference because you embody one of the worst traits of our race, crippling self absorption. You're comparing BLM to KKK because you are offended that, on small occasions, white people are not the center of the universe. It's the same godamn thing with white people that take exception to Black History Month or even **** like the MOBOs or BET.

As for the dig about me being a mod (Weak ass tactic). It wasn't even me that infracted you so drop that **** right now and debate my post, don't deflect it by bringing up the fact that I'm a mod because you lack an answer to it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sorry but are you saying that they were right to attack law enfoprcement officers?

Are you saying that it's right that the police shot a child because he was holding a broom?

One event caused the other, if the police weren't inept then there wouldn't have been a riot.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is one sick and silly thing to say


jesus wept

Why is it? They don't respect kids clearly the only thing they respect is having power and abusing it