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Old 18-03-2016, 09:03 PM #1
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about ****ing time too .... whoooooopieeeeeee

Isn't it amazing that he resigns because he thinks the cuts are too harsh

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Glad he's gone the pompous scrounging prick
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I'm sure he doesn't need the money. A great guy. Good luck for the future Ian.
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Absolutely good riddance, no doubt he will now try to distance himself from some of the most heartless action ever by a Work and Pensions Minister.

If there hadn't been this outcry as to the latest proposed cuts which he was happy to be standing by until the outcry.
he would have likely hung on like crazy to his post.

However, now he is even more free to make trouble for Cameron from the backbenches and somehow I have a feeling he will de doing so.
Really though, good riddance to one of the biggest waste of spaces ever in any govt.

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Anyone who thinks Iain Duncan Smith has resigned because of disability benefits is living on another planet.
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IDS was just Osborne's messenger boy. What ever made him quit, I respect him for saying Osborne was pushing a step too far.

I'm not sure why people think IDS was doing a great job trying to cut benefits on to the disabled.
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Here's his resignation letter in full http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-18/i...etter-in-full/
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IDS was just Osborne's messenger boy. What ever made him quit, I respect him for saying Osborne was pushing a step too far.
Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.
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It is indeed. I wonder who's going to be picking up the poisoned chalice.
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"I hope as the government goes forward you can look again, however, at the balance of the cuts you have insisted upon and wonder if enough has been done to ensure "we are all in this together"." - Jeremy Corbyn. No wait, what?? Iain Duncan Smith...???

I swear I've entered bizarro land
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It is indeed. I wonder who's going to be picking up the poisoned chalice.
Odds of 4/9 on "The reanimated, stuffed corpse of Margaret Thatcher".

...2/1 on "A slightly sad looking, dead-eyed pig, utterly dripping with posh cum"
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Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.
Interesting post.
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Odds of 4/9 on "The reanimated, stuffed corpse of Margaret Thatcher".

...2/1 on "A slightly sad looking, dead-eyed pig, utterly dripping with posh cum"
laughs... your imagination is better than mine
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Hmmmmm, One has to wonder if he would have resigned had the PIP fiasco not failed.
Looks more to me like the perfect time for his excuse to fire shots at the opposition in the EU Brexit campaign.
Getting more interesting by the day.

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He is right to have laid blame for such heartless actions at the doors of both the PM and Osborne.
Both have accepted all the cuts that were made,I have always said IDS was only able to make such heartless and in my view, unjust attacks on the sick and disabled because of Osborne and this PM.

This really is a scandal now that should really rock this govt and also, it leaves this PM exposed as either a very weak leader and PM or a truly unjust one.
It leaves Osborne in an even bigger hole than he appeared to have dug for himself already, since now it appears IDS has sent in the mechanical diggers to make that hole a really massive one now.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1662752/ia...isability-cuts
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Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.
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Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.




It was extraordinary but right,at leas his parting shots are better than just about all he has done as a Minister.
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He is right to have laid blame for such heartless actions at the doors of both the PM and Osborne.
Both have accepted all the cuts that were made,I have always said IDS was only able to make such heartless and in my view, unjust attacks on the sick and disabled because of Osborne and this PM.

This really is a scandal now that should really rock this govt and also, it leaves this PM exposed as either a very weak leader and PM or a truly unjust one.
It leaves Osborne in an even bigger hole than he appeared to have dug for himself already, since now it appears IDS has sent in the mechanical diggers to make that hole a really massive one now.
So IDS was really just the 'fall guy'?
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Thought of kizzy as soon as I heard this earlier
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Hopefully George Osbourne and Jeremy Hunt aren't too far behind. ****ing parasites.
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Pretty surprising since I thought he'd been under equally-strong (if not moreso) scrutiny before the PIP thing but oh well... sending the party into disarray is welcome news.
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David Cameron has always had the power to hire and fire his cabinet, so he must have been in support of the IDS era policy decisions. I don't believe for one moment that IDS was purely a mouthpiece however, he has been a major contributor to policy since joining the cabinet.

As to the timing of his resignation, the stars aligned and he saw an opportunity to make political capital from it, whether that be trying to paint himself in a better light or adding weight to brexit, it really doesn't matter, he saw an opportunity that best served himself (not the country i might add)

Thatcher at her most arrogant would not have had the balls to try and implement what this government are doing. If it was one instance that they misread, I could let them away with it, but they are willfully targeting the disadvantaged, and that has to stop.
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