[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Is it Shabby chic ?

[Toy Soldier]

I very much doubt IDS was pushed. Whatever his real reasons for resigning; there is no scenario in which this is anything but absolutely awful PR for the Conservative government. The only way it could have been pushing, is if they were trying to get him to step down quietly and he decided to go out with a little roar of defiance instead.

[MTVN]

Yeah he definitely wasn't pushed, the PM publicly said he was 'puzzled' by the resignation and like TS said this only reflects badly on the Tory party which was divided enough as it was

[arista]

Really!
I think the Rush for Greece
from Turkey should be Front pages
Due to the New Rules.

[arista]

First live Camera on IDS
on Marr (BBC1 and BBC1HD)

He was Blinking alot
did not looking good.


Radio Clip of a baroness
just played, (Typical BBC)
but Why her view on what she thinks is not valid
once IDS speaks
later in the show.

[arista]

IDS Live Now

[waterhog]

Andrew seems allot calmer this week.

[arista]

Originally Posted by waterhog

Andrew seems allot calmer this week.

No need to be Angry

IDS is very Civil, Hog


Its good he has said why he has Resigned
100% against Osborne Budget Plan
He was not consulted this time
And its not Personal.


Well Done IDS telling the Fecking Truth


If there was a Vote for the PM
IDS would Vote for him.

Fecking Mirror Paper got a load of Bollocks today

[arista]

Top Interview on Marr.


No Spin.


How Nice

[MTVN]

Actually thought IDS came across well and was clearly very passionate. I can understand his grievances as well, seems like every time that Osborne was going to miss his targets he would then go to the DWP and force them to find more savings at short notice, they've bore the brunt of cutbacks while a lot of other departments have been protected. He's right also that the government increasingly risks losing the argument when they try and claim to be a one nation party who really do care about social justice.

[Toy Soldier]

I can't figure out what he's doing at all to be honest . I think downing Street would love us to believe that it's simply all about party divisions that have formed over Europe, because that would only potentially reflect on unity and leadership, not their ability to run things domestically... But I'm increasingly feeling like it can't possibly be that simple. It's all very... Odd. I dunno. I think maybe he looks like a guy whose just woken up one morning and said "You know what? **** it." and opened a can of worms for breakfast.

[smudgie]

I thought he came across as a disingenuous twit.
Coughing and spluttering...
He resigned after the PIP was a failure, the very same PIP changes that he and his department had been happy enough to implement, perfect timing for him to try and scupper the IN supporters of EU in his party.
His very passionate speech about him not caring about being in government and how all he has done is to do with his desire to make it easier for the worst off.....please, pass me the sick bag.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Actually thought IDS came across well and was clearly very passionate. I can understand his grievances as well, seems like every time that Osborne was going to miss his targets he would then go to the DWP and force them to find more savings at short notice, they've bore the brunt of cutbacks while a lot of other departments have been protected. He's right also that the government increasingly risks losing the argument when they try and claim to be a one nation party who really do care about social justice.

Yes makes half today Papers look stupid
including the Pathetic Sunday Mirror

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can't figure out what he's doing at all to be honest . I think downing Street would love us to believe that it's simply all about party divisions that have formed over Europe, because that would only potentially reflect on unity and leadership, not their ability to run things domestically... But I'm increasingly feeling like it can't possibly be that simple. It's all very... Odd. I dunno. I think maybe he looks like a guy whose just woken up one morning and said "You know what? **** it." and opened a can of worms for breakfast.

Leviticus 16:10

"But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to be used for making atonement by sending it into the wilderness".

Perhaps IDS is one 'Scapegoat' who was no longer willing to have ALL the sins of the party transferred to him come the (inevitable) Day of Atonement'.

[arista]

Busy Man
IDS also gave Another Pure No Spin Interview
to Faisal Islam on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can't figure out what he's doing at all to be honest . I think downing Street would love us to believe that it's simply all about party divisions that have formed over Europe, because that would only potentially reflect on unity and leadership, not their ability to run things domestically... But I'm increasingly feeling like it can't possibly be that simple. It's all very... Odd. I dunno. I think maybe he looks like a guy whose just woken up one morning and said "You know what? **** it." and opened a can of worms for breakfast.

No TS
watch the Full Interview

Osborne did not consult him this time

TS he was honest.
and still backs the PM.


So nothing like the New Labour Wally
DWP Bloke who resigned
(from pathetic UnElected Brown) while
"Have I Got News For You" was being recorded
live on a Thursday.



Sign Of The Times

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

No TS
watch the Full Interview

Osborne did not consult him this time

TS he was honest.
and still backs the PM.


So nothing like the New Labour Wally
DWP Bloke who resigned
(from pathetic UnElected Brown) while
"Have I Got News For You" was being recorded
live on a Thursday.



Sign Of The Times

Bang On Right Arista - It is more a case of Cameron BACK-STABBING and attacking IDS than the other way around.

[joeysteele]

I actually found him insincere in his interview.

I really intensely dislike him,I know he has had near sackfuls of cases and grievances against the policies which he ''was' the architect of.
Universal credit is his baby, it is costing loads to implement and is miles behind schedule,PIP replacing DLA is causing major hold ups and problems too.
He has dismissed continually criticisms as to the issues of problems and has shown not a scrap of compassion as to some of the really bad cases of claimants wrongly losing benefits.

His interview may have been that bit more believable if he had used same to apologise to all those with genuine disabilities and incurable and terminal illnesses who he has shown contempt to and largely for 5 years a least, ignored and dismissed their concerns.

I don't know is this is more about the EU than anything else,I have the same contempt for Cameron and Osborne as to the policies of IDS since they like him have ruthlessly always defended them and implemented same against the most vulnerable..

This man however,I wouldn't trust an inch.
For me it is just a pity he will be an even greater draw on the exit side as to the EU .
Why people like him, when they resign just don't clear off totally,is beyond me.

However everytime I see now him for sure, I will feel the happier knowing I never agreed with his policies as Work and Pensions secretary and how happy I will be further in my decision to vote to stay in the EU too,very happy indeed to be on the opposite side of IDS,it reinforces I chose the right side.

Nothing I have heard him say today has altered in the slightest my total contempt for the man.
I also can believe he was a nightmare to work for too,he was a nightmare to deal with for anyone connected to care and support for the sick and disabled, with his arrogance and dismissing attitude, that is 'if' you could ever actually get to speak to him in the first place.

Horrible, horrible man and someone I hope never holds high office again in the UK,since he should never have been allowed to anyway, that shows terrible judgement on the part of this PM to that he was able to.

[joeysteele]

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[arista]

OK Joey you do not like IDS


But as a interview it shot down all the fake paper headlines

As a Interview he got his points across.
Osborne did not consult him, last budget

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

OK Joey you do not like IDS


But as a interview it shot down all the fake paper headlines

As a Interview he got his points across.
Osborne did not consult him, last budget

Not to me it didn't, I doubt really if many are any more the wiser as to why he resigned once he knew the proposals were likely going to be discarded anyway.

I could more easily believe he was resigning 'because they were going to be kicked into the long grass',not because they had been included in the budget plans.
They were apparently his plans anyway,plans that fit well in with his past heartless actions across the board too.

[arista]

Sure Joey the long grass.

But on this Budget his Plan
was Hijacked by Osborne
who should have spoke to IDS
its that simple

Even if you want to blame him
thats fine.

As a Interview it was good

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I thought he came across as a disingenuous twit.
Coughing and spluttering...
He resigned after the PIP was a failure, the very same PIP changes that he and his department had been happy enough to implement, perfect timing for him to try and scupper the IN supporters of EU in his party.
His very passionate speech about him not caring about being in government and how all he has done is to do with his desire to make it easier for the worst off.....please, pass me the sick bag.

spot on smudgie.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I actually found him insincere in his interview.

I really intensely dislike him,I know he has had near sackfuls of cases and grievances against the polices which he ''was' the architect of.
Universal credit is his baby, it is costing loads to implement and is miles behind schedule,PIP replacing DLA is causing major hold ups and problems too.
He has dismissed continually criticisms as to the issues of problems and has shown not a scrap of compassion as to some of the really bad cases of claiminats wrongly losing benefits.

Hos interview may have bee that bit more believable if he had used same to apologise to all those wit genuine disabilities and incurable and terminal illnesses who he has shown contempt to and largely for 5 years a least, ignored and dismissed their concerns.

I don't know is this is more about the EU than anything else,I have the same contempt for Cameron and Osborne as to the policies of IDS since they like him have ruthlessly always defended them and implemented same against the most vulnerable..

This man however,I wouldn't trust an inch.
For me it is just a pity he will be an even greater draw on the exit side as to the EU .
Why people like him when they resign just don't clear off totally,is beyond me.

However everytime I see now him for sure, I will feel the happier knowing I never agreed with his polices as Work and Pensions secretary and how happy I will be further in my decision to vote to stay in the EU too,very happy indeed to be on the opposite side of IDS,it reinforces I chose the right side.

Nothing I have heard him say today has altered in the slightest my total contempt for the man.
I also can believe he was a nightmare to work for too,he was a nightmare to deal with or anyone connected to care and support for the sick and disabled, with his arrogance and dismissing attitude, that is 'if' you could ever actually get to speak to him in the first place.

Horrible, horrible man and someone I hope never holds high office again in the UK,since he should never have been allowed to anyway, that shows terrible judgement on the par of this PM to that he was able to.

Don't hold back now Joey, say what you really feel

I actually agree with all you have said

[Tom4784]

IDS is a reptile but I'm here for him doing as much damage to the tories as possible.