[Will.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Going to see Civil War on Wednesday, I'm kind of looking forward to it but I have to admit that I'm a little tired of the MCU tropes, I'm just hoping that half of the film isn't just setting up for something else.

For some reason I'm not too excited for X-Men and I'm not sure why since I loved First Class and Days of Future Past. I'm sure I'll love it though.

Yeah, I don't think it was setting up too much for the next movies, well maybe but it didn't feel like it. I hope you like it.

[Will.]

I'm going to watch the Thor movies, I've seen bits but don't think I've watched the both through.

Thor: Ragnarok sounds really good! I think it's because Hulk is in it.

[Will.]

Do X-Men movies have end credit scenes?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Will.

Do X-Men movies have end credit scenes?

Days of Future Past has an Apocalypse teaser... can't remember if First Class or any of the original trilogy did.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Days of Future Past has an Apocalypse teaser... can't remember if First Class or any of the original trilogy did.

Yeah I can't remember if the original trilogy did

[Tom4784]

I got around to watching Ant-Man earlier, I thought it was pretty decent. The villain's terrible and the film itself is a bit on the bland side but I did love the final fight and the final scene.

[Amy Jade]

Isn't Sin City Marvel?

That's the only one I like

[Toy Soldier]

Just been catching up on Agents of SHIELD and starting to think... Isn't an Inhumans movie a bit redundant at this point? They've been covered extensively on AoS, meaning their origin story has now been done, and it feels like the only options would be to carry on from what's already established (meaning that anyone who doesn't watch AoS, which let's face it covers the vast majority of casual moviegoers, would have no idea what was going on) OR basically do a reboot origin story and completely break the combined MCU.

Wonder if they've shelved the film because they've realised that they used up the entire storyline in AoS

[Lostie!]

From what (admittedly little) I know about the comics, AoS hasn't covered all of the potential Inhuman stories. Actually I think most of the ones in AoS are original characters not from the comics anyway.

[Tom4784]

I think they're struggling with the idea of an Inhumans film, they've kind of used them as a replacement for the X-Men but the actual Inhuman characters from the comics are a bit more...out there.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

From what (admittedly little) I know about the comics, AoS hasn't covered all of the potential Inhuman stories. Actually I think most of the ones in AoS are original characters not from the comics anyway.

Yes but it's not like they've been introduced in AoS as some obscure little branch of Inhumans with the "main" ones still to be covered, it's been done as a major origin story with global consequences... and because AoS is part of the MCU they can't undo that and say "Actually THESE are the main Inhumans and here is THEIR origin story...".

So basically, I don't see how they can do a movie of Inhumans without it following on from their introduction in AoS... and as most moviegoers don't watch AoS... how do you cover all of that for people to catch up? Your only other option is to consider their AoS origin "non-canon" and reboot them. Which would (IMO) set a bad precident for the MCU which has, thus far, managed to weave together the TV shows and movies well.

[Tom4784]

I enjoyed most of Civil War, I really felt the film started to drag after the airport scene though.

[Will.]

A Black Widow movie is looking highly possible now:

But in a May 6 interview with Deadline, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige admitted that he is mulling the idea of adding even more standalone movies to the company's slate — particularly for Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow.

...the one [solo movie] creatively and emotionally that we are most committing to doing is Black Widow.

We think she’s an amazing character. We think Scarlett Johansson’s portrayal of her is amazing. She’s a lead Avenger and has amazing stories in her own right to tell that we think would be fun to turn into a stand-alone franchise.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/6/11613244...ie-kevin-feige

[Tom4784]

It should have happened years ago tbh.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It should have happened years ago tbh.

definitely.

[BBfanUSA]

Civil War just came out in the states...and I loved it.

I think I got sold on Black Panther and Spiderman. Shame that they opted to not use Andrew Garfield though, Tom Holland is excellent as the web slinger however.

I am so glad that the Russos are directing Avengers Infinity War, after this movie they're the right guys for the job.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It should have happened years ago tbh.

What's your fav Marvel movie, Dezzy?

[Will.]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

Civil War just came out in the states...and I loved it.

I think I got sold on Black Panther and Spiderman. Shame that they opted to not use Andrew Garfield though, Tom Holland is excellent as the web slinger however.

I am so glad that the Russos are directing Avengers Infinity War, after this movie they're the right guys for the job.

Yeah Black Panther and Spider Man were brilliant! I'm very excited for their solo movies next year!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Will.

What's your fav Marvel movie, Dezzy?

Winter Soldier, Civil War would have taken the title if it weren't for the last quarter though. The airport battle was so good that everything that happened after it felt deflated.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Winter Soldier, Civil War would have taken the title if it weren't for the last quarter though. The airport battle was so good that everything that happened after it felt deflated.

Yeah I get what you mean with Civil War.

[Will.]

Iron Man will be in Spider Man: Homecoming

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It should have happened years ago tbh.

It should have been done, at the latest, after the first Avengers... I almost feel like it's too late for a standalone Black Widow movie even at this point, let alone in 2020 and beyond after Infinity War (which is really when they'd have to do it).

I'd imagine a Black Widow movie to be stripped back, with human (or at least almost human) enemies, which would work as an origin story or a "close to origin" story that could have been done back at the end of Phase 1.

Marvel have thus far kept their timeline in chronological order, with the exception of "The First Avenger", but that was still the first appearance of Cap himself and so not a prequel... so I doubt they would go back and do a Black Widow origins... and a standalone movie like that AFTER Black Widow has been fighting against gods side to side with superpowered Avengers... feels a little bit redundant? Like any villain that she can realistically face alone, can't be anywhere close to as powerful as the villains she's already face on multiple occasions. She has to be facing a human opponent that - realistically - at this point she could have wiped off the face of the planet with a phonecall.

In other words - she has a vital place in the Avengers unit but I don't understand her place as a solo force against any opponent that's not going to come across as... well... "you people are so petty and tiny".

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It should have been done, at the latest, after the first Avengers... I almost feel like it's too late for a standalone Black Widow movie even at this point, let alone in 2020 and beyond after Infinity War (which is really when they'd have to do it).

I'd imagine a Black Widow movie to be stripped back, with human (or at least almost human) enemies, which would work as an origin story or a "close to origin" story that could have been done back at the end of Phase 1.

Marvel have thus far kept their timeline in chronological order, with the exception of "The First Avenger", but that was still the first appearance of Cap himself and so not a prequel... so I doubt they would go back and do a Black Widow origins... and a standalone movie like that AFTER Black Widow has been fighting against gods side to side with superpowered Avengers... feels a little bit redundant? Like any villain that she can realistically face alone, can't be anywhere close to as powerful as the villains she's already face on multiple occasions. She has to be facing a human opponent that - realistically - at this point she could have wiped off the face of the planet with a phonecall.

In other words - she has a vital place in the Avengers unit but I don't understand her place as a solo force against any opponent that's not going to come across as... well... "you people are so petty and tiny".

Yeah, I think it's a bit late too, I'm guessing that Marvel wants to push Captain Marvel as their premiere female hero though which is why they've held back on a BW solo film.

[Will.]

They could have used 2013 for a Black Widow movie, we only had Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World.

2014 would have been tricky considering BW was a main character in The Winter Soldier and filming would have been tight.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Will.

They could have used 2013 for a Black Widow movie, we only had Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World.

2014 would have been tricky considering BW was a main character in The Winter Soldier and filming would have been tight.

Tbf Winter Soldier, though the plot line is obviously pure Captain America, is almost as much a Black Widow movie based on screentime. Though more in a "Batman and Robin" side-kick sense I suppose.

They should just hit her with super-soldier serum or something, the MCU doesn't have to stick exactly to the comics. They don't seem to be going that route with AoS's Bobbi (Mockingbird, who was juiced up with the same serum as Captain America) so they could just siphon that plot off for Black Widow. I always find it a bit... "anti-feminist" in the Avengers... With her being the only original female and also quite clearly the weakest (in terms of combat ability). Even compared to Hawkeye... And he's sort of lame. They have a female powerhouse with Scarlet Witch now though, I guess, who if you go by the comics could pretty much take them all on at once and win.