[arista]

Cliff Richard committed under-age sex offences


[Police pass file alleging Sir Cliff Richard committed under-age sex offences
in the 1980s to prosecutors for decision on whether to charge him ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz48HjTWybx

http://news.sky.com/story/1693662/cl...-handed-to-cps

[joeysteele]

No, what this means is the Police have an allegation/s against him from one or more individuals, they have not arrested him on the matter but have talked to him.

they have now sent the details of the allegation/s and what Cliff Richard has said, to the CPS, who will look at it and decide if, I stress 'if', there is anything that they could recommend charges on or not.

The CPS may well come back with no action recommended depending on what is in the file.

He has not at this time, been arrested on child sex matters, has not been charged on child sex matters and may well still not have anything to answer to further at all as to the allegation/s.

[Toy Soldier]

How to put this delicately...

In my opinion, there are "questions that need answering" when it comes to good ol' Cliff. However, I don't think they will ever be answered, or at least not before his death. He's getting on a bit.

[LeatherTrumpet]

personally bin think its a load of utter bollocks - he has been a star since the 50s

[arista]

[chuff me dizzy]

http://breakingdownthnews.blogspot.c...lnetwork%22%7D

[chuff me dizzy]

Richards was a regular visitor to Elm House, signing in as Kitty I hope they lock the perv up and throw away the key

[arista]

Chuff is on the War Path

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Chuff is on the War Path

Far from it, I just like to see justice done for the victims

[arista]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Far from it, I just like to see justice done for the victims

Thats Fair

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats Fair

I find it very unfair when the victims don't get justice ,just because the perpetuator is famous or in another case Drs with friends in high places

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

IF he is guilty of anything,it'll all be ok ,perhaps he is mentally ill, so help will be provided, he can't help it !!!

The operative word indeed being 'if', he has not even been arrested and he hasn't even been charged with anything yet.

A crime has to be proven or that is how the law should work in the UK, it seems innocent until 'proven' guilty is fast becoming an irrelevant part of UK law now,especially as to celebrities.

Such as William Roache who had his name plastered across the papers, then was found unanimously 'not guilty' of all allegations and charges.
While the accusers get no negative publicity whatsoever.

It smells a little to me that now in this compensation filled culture we live, so many celebrities are now facing really way back historic claims of abuse,that we never hear of much of note being brought against ordinary people who have no wealth or celebrity status to get compensation likely from..

[LeatherTrumpet]

agreed, cliff has been a star for over 50 years. Lets see some actual evidence.

[bitontheslide]

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

Post of the week for me.

No more needs saying.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

[Black Dagger]

Grandma will be gutted if it's true.

[Tom4784]

There's nothing anyone can really say on the matter until charges are brought forward and evidence is presented.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's nothing anyone can really say on the matter until charges are brought forward and evidence is presented.

Yes Ch5HD Live
said it was one person.
That Police are looking in to.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The police and CPS have to show that they treat allegations seriously and that they are following due process. That's good, but until the CPS decides it merits being taken further, there is no case to answer. We still live in a country where we are innocent until proven guilty, not until the press feels like someone should be guilty for a bit of news.

Spot on and well said.

My only other thought being however is that sadly in my view,for many, 'innocent until proven guilty' is no longer the case to a good number in society.

[chuff me dizzy]

https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013...le-party-list/

[arista]

[Cliff Richard seen for the first time since a dossier of sex abuse
allegations emerged claiming he 'molested a boy after roller-skating into a shop' ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz48eATfDl8

has to be proven , of course

[Cherie]

Cliff on roller skates in a shop

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

How to put this delicately...

In my opinion, there are "questions that need answering" when it comes to good ol' Cliff. However, I don't think they will ever be answered, or at least not before his death. He's getting on a bit.

lol. Have to agree with this tbh.

[Vicky.]

Trial by media again I see.

Maybe a couple of compensation hunters..given how successful previous cases have been. Would be better waiting til he died though so he couldn't defend himself.

This will stick, as stuff like this always does. So I hope the police have some kind of actual proof rather than the say so of someone who has miraculously coming forward after 50 years