[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

child abductions happen with parents and without parents, most in the UK happen when kids are playing outside but noone says "well if only the parents never let them play outdoors"

There is no proof to support the abduction theory though LT, by all accounts the only actual "proof" they have was from the sniffer dogs who point to her having died in the apartment

[Jack_]

How can those ***** have the audacity to call her comments 'ignorant and ill-informed'? Are you taking the piss? You DID leave your children alone in a foreign country, it's not like she's made it up has she

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There is no proof to support the abduction theory though LT, by all accounts the only actual "proof" they have was from the sniffer dogs who point to her having died in the apartment

There are no other credible theories that the police have. No point looking for complex conspiracy theories as the police have already stated

The mccans did not kill her or dispose of her, its is preposterous to suggest so

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

How can those ***** have the audacity to call her comments 'ignorant and ill-informed'? Are you taking the piss? You DID leave your children alone in a foreign country, it's not like she's made it up has she

Yep and you would think as advocates of a missing children group they would be shouting from the rooftops that what they did was insane in the hopes other people would not make the same mistake???

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There are no other credible theories that the police have. No point looking for complex conspiracy theories as the police have already stated

The mccans did not kill her or dispose of her, its is preposterous to suggest so

I don't see why you think some ninja child abductor is a more plausible theory than than her dying in the apartment and her parents getting rid of her, you act like no one in the world every tried to hide a body before, I don't have figures but if we searched do you reckon we would find that more children have been randomly abducted from their beds in the dead of the night or more dead bodies have been hidden by people trying to hide their involvement in a death?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What about if you left your 2 two year olds and your 3 year old home alone one night and the next morning the 3 year old asks you where you were when the younger ones were crying the night before? Or if you went back to check on your 3 year old, found she'd vomited while you were out so you washed her, put her back to bed and then went back out drinking with your friends? Would that be insane especially if you are a Doctor? Surely that's insanely dangerous?

I agree.

Many times I have said this case stinks and for me there is really no rhyme,reason or sense to the McCanns actions as to their 3 young Children that night,or any other night they were out too.

I think Sharon O, has a strong point.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree.

Many times I have said this case stinks and for me there is really no rhyme,reason or sense to the McCanns actions as to their 3 young Children that night,or any other night they were out too.

I think Sharon O, has a strong point.

the mccanns are scum

either option 1) they left 3 tiny kids unattended with an open door in a foreign land to go out drinking
or
2) the door was locked and they just made up the claim it was unlocked to cook up this abducter story

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the mccanns are scum

either option 1) they left 3 tiny kids unattended with an open door in a foreign land to go out drinking
or
2) the door was locked and they just made up the claim it was unlocked to cook up this abducter story

My money is on Number 2.

@ LT - It's actually incredibly rare for strangers to abduct children, far more "not far fetched" in fact that a parent is involved in some way

[Lostie!]

She might have a point here but this is the woman who thought the story about a woman castrating her husband was hilarious so I don't really see her as a beacon of rationality.

If anything, this is just a nice little chance for her to be self-righteous about something.

[Ross.]

They discussed it on Loose Women today

Youtube video

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

What did they say about it Ross, I can't watch videos right now?

[the truth]

pathetic show, they didnt even mention the open door

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What did they say about it Ross, I can't watch videos right now?

Katie (basically said people shouldn't leave their kids alone) and Jane agreed with her comments, Jane doesn't think it was ill-informed because all she did was state the facts

Lesley thinks she was being disrespectful to the McCanns with the way she phrased her comments and defended them and she doesn't think she should have said it because it doesn't help actually finding Madeleine

And Nadia told a story about her children being approached by a stranger on holiday in the ten minutes they were out of her sight

[the truth]

the presenter didnt even ask about the door left open, because 1) shes simply too dumb or 2) shes too spineless

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the presenter didnt even ask about the door left open, because 1) shes simply too dumb or 2) shes too spineless

Why would she? They weren't discussing the case itself and the theories, they were discussing Sharon's comment and then about if kids should be left alone.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the presenter didnt even ask about the door left open, because 1) shes simply too dumb or 2) shes too spineless

Ask who?

That's not what the discussion was about?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Katie (basically said people shouldn't leave their kids alone) and Jane agreed with her comments, Jane doesn't think it was ill-informed because all she did was state the facts

Lesley thinks she was being disrespectful to the McCanns with the way she phrased her comments and defended them and she doesn't think she should have said it because it doesn't help actually finding Madeleine

And Nadia told a story about her children being approached by a stranger on holiday in the ten minutes they were out of her sight

Thanks

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by the truth

the presenter didnt even ask about the door left open, because 1) shes simply too dumb or 2) shes too spineless

Okay well "the presenter" has two degrees so the first is totally incorrect

Your second point is also incorrect, Andrea is a goddess

[Glenn.]

As far as I can see, she didn't say anything wrong. I'd say she put it quite tamely too.

[Livia]

Kelly Osbourne, taking drugs from 13 and addicted by 16. Jack Osbourne, drinking heavily and smoking pot from age 14... and Sharon thinks we could benefit from her opinion about other people's parenting skills. She looks great in that glass house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Kelly Osbourne, taking drugs from 13 and addicted by 16. Jack Osbourne, drinking heavily and smoking pot from age 14... and Sharon thinks we could benefit from her opinion about other people's parenting skills. She looks great in that glass house.

she's on a talk show discussing the subject of leaving young children/babies home alone, is she not allowed voice her opinion on that because her kids were troubled teens? :/

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Why would she? They weren't discussing the case itself and the theories, they were discussing Sharon's comment and then about if kids should be left alone.

the door being left open is why they were taken. and you don't think that's relevant???

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Kelly Osbourne, taking drugs from 13 and addicted by 16. Jack Osbourne, drinking heavily and smoking pot from age 14... and Sharon thinks we could benefit from her opinion about other people's parenting skills. She looks great in that glass house.

shes an idiot , but even a broken clock is right twice a day and she was right here

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the door being left open is why they were taken. and you don't think that's relevant???

It's relevant to the Maddie case, but not the crux of what this particular discussion was about.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's relevant to the Maddie case, but not the crux of what this particular discussion was about.

the front door being left open isn't relevant to a discussion about leaving kids unattended in a hotel room abroad? really? lol. the open door is how the child was taken and you think its irrelevant. I'm afraid to say that's the craziest thing ive ever heard in my life

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the front door being left open isn't relevant to a discussion about leaving kids unattended in a hotel room abroad? really? lol. the open door is how the child was taken and you think its irrelevant. I'm afraid to say that's the craziest thing ive ever heard in my life

The discussion itself was about the appropriateness (or not) of Sharon Osbourne's comments, which stemmed from a case about a woman asking if it was ok for her to leave her 10 month baby for 5 minutes.

It wasn't a debate about the Maddie case.