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Old 31-01-2007, 04:56 PM #26
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Im Bisexual myself and not meaning to sound bigoted with my attitude.......
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i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?
Its not about God and Religion,its about Rights when it comes to Wills etc etc.


If partners are living together for 60 years and the bread winner dies,the person left behind is left with no rights when it comes to money etc,they are literally thrown out of there own house with no rights whatsoever.
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Which bit if gay and lesbian rights are we debating?

Marriage - well I think that everyone has the right to be treated in a equal manner. I laugh at how things are in this country. The latest BIG thing is Equality and Diversity - however you can only be treated in a way that the government dictate as being politically correct, not in a way that is actually equal!!!

how about discrimination in the work place because of your sexuality? it still happens, look at how long it has taken for the armed forces to acknolwedge that you can still actually be in the services if you are gay! of course you know when you are gay you can not possibly fulfill your job as a soldier etc... and of course you will fancy the pants off every one of the same sex you come across which makes it hard for you or them to do their job!!! whatever lol

I think that gay and lesbians are discriminated against on a lot of levels and it is about time we stood up to discrimination - there you go I am putting my drum away for now
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I wonder if shilpa were a gay man,would the bullying be made such a big deal,if words like ****** were used etc.I dont think the government would give a crap.
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I think it is disgusting the way gay/lesbians are discriminated against. Everyone is born Bisexual, and then when you are old enough you choose which sex you like. They are no different to hetrosexuals. Im glad the legal age for homosexual sex has dropped down to the normal age (16). It was just wrong having it older than that ust becuase you are homosexual.

Gay's and Lesbian's are people too, and should not be discriminated against.
Just out of interest, are you a lesbian Emilee?
LMAO: No i just have quite a few Gay friends.
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Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.
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Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.
lol,dont say sorry,nothing the matter with being a lesbian if you were
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Oooh God that did sound a bit too much! lol, Like i was fighting for my own rights haha. And dropping the age limit down. haha. Woops, sorry if i mislead anyone. haha.
PMSLLL I know this is a serious debate but that made me laugh
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Old 31-01-2007, 08:18 PM #34
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LOL Didnt mean to say it like that.. haha. Got a lil bit too into the topic. People think i am a lesbian at school for some reason, mainly probably because i havnt had a boyfriend in a while. If someone a girl asks me:
"Are you a lesbian?" i just say "Why do you fancy me?".
It really annoys me.
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LOL Emilee, don't worry - that sort of stuff is said a lot. Just because you don't have a boyfriend for a while, people may think you're a lesbian - it's slightly strange.
Teen years - what a weird age to be at times.

Anyway, in my personal view, I feel that gays and lesbians should certainly be given the same rights. We're all human beings at the end of the day! And that should be what counts. It's all down to personal choice and the way people choose to live their lives again; the same applies to religion etc., so if all these people can be treated equally then the same should apply to everyone else.
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They should have the same rights as everyone else! It isn't fair just because they are in the minority that if a gay couple are in a relationship for donkeys years and then one of them dies and the other gets nothing! Or has that changed now? But yeah they deserve the same rights. Gay marriage still isn't legal here which frustrates me! Actually marriage laws in general suck in Ireland!
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Gay/Bi/Straight/Transexuals all deserve the same treatment as they are god's people.

Im a bisexual and I am proud. I agree that Gay Marriages have now been accepted and finally people are taking them seriously.
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Gay/Bi/Straight/Transexuals all deserve the same treatment as they are god's people.

Im a bisexual and I am proud. I agree that Gay Marriages have now been accepted and finally people are taking them seriously.
Im glad your proud of your sexuallity and to come out with it, Homosexuality and bisexuality, - there is nothing wrong with it, and once people learn to accept it, they will see, they are just the same as everybody else.
Good for you
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Yeah i agree you shouldnt be ashamed of your sexial life becasue its your and no one elses and its up to you what you are into
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i think the idea of gay marriage is utter tosh though, why would any gay want to be joined in matrimoney before a god who wants them dead?
But not all marriages are religious though. A man and woman can be legally married in a non-religious ceremony.

Two of my gay friends got 'married' last year...I couldn't be more happy for them. They have been together for about 7 years, both have excellent jobs, pay their taxes, contribute to society, and are law abiding citizens. What right does anyone have to say that they should not have the same rights as anybody else?
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I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?
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i am in a long term relationship and we were the first couple to commit in the civil partnership in our area.
we consider ourselfs to be a normal couple living a normal life.
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Oh WOW! Thats great.
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I think it's great that homosexuals can get married. It's an act of total commitment and love and I don't see why they shouldn't get married.
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I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?
If a child is brought up by a person or people who loves and cares for that child, I don't really see that their sexuality is an issue.
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I haven't read the whole of this convo but I would be against two people of the same sex adopting children. I think Marriage is their own buisness but adopting kids is another matter. I also think what people do behind closed doors is entirely their own buisness.

Whats everyones views on same sex couples adopting children/babies?
If a child is brought up by a person or people who loves and cares for that child, I don't really see that their sexuality is an issue.
But what about the child? I mean, having two mums or dads is gonna get them a lot of mean comments at school, kids can be horrible etc.
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Yeah I can imagine it being hard for the child and that child wouldn't have a normal life because he or she would clearly be "different". I think a child would get alot of stick at school and that is unfair to put a child in a situation where they would be an easy target.
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There's no such thing as a 'normal' family these days though. There's 1000s of children in one-parent families, or with step-parents. It's a sign of the times. Amongst my friends when I was at school I was the only one whose parents were still together and who had a 'traditional' family. I'm not being detrimental - I'm just pointing it out. There's so much more to consider in whether parents are suitable to bring a child up than their sexuality. For instance - a woman I know was married (to a man) and they had a son. They then split up and she is now living with another woman. Should she not be allowed to keep her son? The father isn't able to look after him - so what's the solution then? Should the boy be taken away from his mother and her partner, who love him and take care of him?
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But what about the child? I mean, having two mums or dads is going to get them a lot of mean comments at school, kids can be horrible etc.
You're right but that's not anybody's fault except for the kids who'll judge. I don't believe same sex couples shouldn't adopt just because of other people's ignorance.
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I got nothing against gay or whatever anyone is. Just hate to see gays and lesbians mucking around in public.Theres a time and a place for it.
But as Glittereyes mentioned I dont think they should be allowed to adopt children
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