[Cherie]

There was a spike in registrations after the debate last night, and the system crashed, the deadline to register was midnight, I have no sympathy as its been open for months

[arista]

Yes to many left it too late
I guess some may have wanted to Vote
after last night ITV's Live debate.


Crazy to leave to the last few hours

[joeysteele]

If there is a set deadline and something happens up to that deadline that prevents the desired action being able to be done.
Then that is not the fault of anyone trying to beat that deadline.

If you had won a great prize and had up to a deadline time and date to claim it,if the system failed before the deadline time and date, then we would have every right to have an extension.

The deadline to register was 11.59pm not 10pm. That is absolutely no fault at all of those wishing to comply with applying before the deadline time and date was reached.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If there is a set deadline and something happens up to that deadline that prevents the desired action being able to be done.
Then that is not the fault of anyone trying to beat that deadline.

If you had won a great prize and had up to a deadline time and date to claim it,if the system failed before the deadline time and date, then we would have every right to have an extension.

The deadline to register was 11.59pm not 10pm. That is absolutely no fault at all of those wishing to comply with applying before the deadline time and date was reached.

I agree in principle with what you are saying. But, as the online system relied on the net and computers and the same are known to be loopy under pressure, it is on the person registering to ensure they do it with enough time to rectify if it goes wrong. Similar to something being lost in the post, if it gets lost, you do it early enough to ensure you have the ability to send it again or use some other method.

Its not like people haven't been warned plenty of times, they should take responsibility for their own tardiness and live with the consequences rather than looking for others to blame.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I agree in principle with what you are saying. But, as the online system relied on the net and computers and the same are known to be loopy under pressure, it is on the person registering to ensure they do it with enough time to rectify if it goes wrong. Similar to something being lost in the post, if it gets lost, you do it early enough to ensure you have the ability to send it again or use some other method.

Its not like people haven't been warned plenty of times, they should take responsibility for their own tardiness and live with the consequences rather than looking for others to blame.

Agree I don't get the excuse either that they didn't know where they would be living until 10pm last night, signing up to anything on the internet at short notice is fraught with things that can go wrong

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Agree I don't get the excuse either that they didn't know where they would be living until 10pm last night, signing up to anything on the internet at short notice is fraught with things that can go wrong

if you are catching a flight, and don't leave sufficient time for a traffic jam or whatever and miss the flight, its your own fault, not the fault of the airline .... its the same thing

[Cherie]

Now some are calling for the deadline to be extended

[Livia]

Let's change the rules for all those people who couldn't be arsed to get their ducks in a row.

[joeysteele]

Then just out of common sense and right,what is the point of having deadlines if it is in any way acceptable the service is not going to be available until the 'set' deadline.
Odd take on democracy there.

Why in the UK are people not automatically on the voting register anyway, once they turn 18 unless they request not to be.

I think it should be extended and am stunned that anyone thinks anyone who should be eligible and have a legal right to vote, and who complied with the deadline put in place,should now be excluded from doing so.

We are having debates now, just maybe some were spurred by those debates to actually bother to vote after all, isn't that the original intention of the debates, to actually try to reach and motivate people.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let's change the rules for all those people who couldn't be arsed to get their ducks in a row.

Its not about changing the rules at all, if the set deadline could not be met for those complying with it.

You have to have postal votes in by the deadline 10pm on voting day but you can send then any time from getting them,even weeks before the vote.
Those who take more time are no less valid than those who do so rapidly.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if you are catching a flight, and don't leave sufficient time for a traffic jam or whatever and miss the flight, its your own fault, not the fault of the airline .... its the same thing

Yes but if the actual deadline check in time is say 8pm you have until that time to check in, not 'have' to do so by 6pm.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes but if the actual deadline check in time is say 8pm you have until that time to check in, not 'have' to do so by 6pm.

On line registration wasn't the only option, its their own fault. Always people wan't to blame someone else, no-one takes responsibility for their own actions. If they really wanted to vote, they should have done it weeks prior to the end date. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.

[Northern Monkey]

I've got splinters in my arse on this one.
Part of me agrees with Joey that since it's their server that crashed then they should reimburse that time really as they have set the deadline and should honour that amount of time.

But then part of me thinks if you are going to say for example go and queue up for an event or something and the deadline for entry is say 8.00pm and hundreds of people rush to get in at say 7.45pm then not everyone is going to get in due to the time restriction and amount of people all trying to get in.Then it's just tough luck and you'd just accept it.
The only thing is that this is much more important.
On balance i'd say really they should give the time back as a gesture of good will and because of the importance of the situation.So i'm with Joey on balance.

[Cherie]

Now they are saying you can register all day today? I'm sorry it smacks of hand holding, most of those who got caught will be quite aware that sites crash internet connections can be lost, but the lesson learned is deadlines can now be extended if they can't get their act together and do it in time, apparently it also favours remain as it will be mostly under 25s who will not have complied with the deadline, still happy Monkey

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Now they are saying you can register all day today? I'm sorry it smacks of hand holding, most of those who got caught will be quite aware that sites crash internet connections can be lost, but the lesson learned is deadlines can now be extended if they can't get their act together and do it in time, apparently it also favours remain as it will be mostly under 25s who will not have complied with the deadline, still happy Monkey

I'm not really that arsed tbh.Whatever will be will be.I'm sure my life won't change drastically either way.Maybe shorter queues and quicker doctors and dentists appointments if we leave but feck it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I'm not really that arsed tbh.Whatever will be will be.I'm sure my life won't change drastically either way.Maybe shorter queues and quicker doctors and dentists appointments if we leave but feck it.

If we leave nothing will happen overnight, it will be years before anything is sorted

[joeysteele]

I am pleased common sense has prevailed and that people can register today,that is fair it is still a full 2 weeks before polling day.

If now anyone hasn't done so then I too will have no sympathy then with them.

[Livia]

This is what happens when people leave stuff as important as this to the last minute. Every other disorganised person in the country who also left it to the last minute joins with you to crash the website. Who's fault is it that the server crashed? The host of arses who have had the rest of their life to register but left it to a couple of hours before a deadline. A deadline.

The moral of this story? Sort yourself out and don't leave everything till the last minute in case there's a problem.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If we leave nothing will happen overnight, it will be years before anything is sorted

I personally fear things will happen Cherie.

It will be years for sure but the uncertainty around for those years of what deals may be done, and deals won or not won.
What conditions will apply eventually, not known too for some considerable time,either as to an EU deal or deals around the World.

That is not in anyway going to boost our economy or inspire confidence from Foreign investors as to doing so in the UK.

Then at the end of the years of negotiations the UK could I think very likely find itself running around just making up strongly lost ground, even just to get back to the point where we are today again.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I personally fear things will happen Cherie.

It will be years for sure but the uncertainty around for those years of what deals may be done, and deals won or not won.
What conditions will apply eventually, not known too for some considerable time,either as to an EU deal or deals around the World.

That is not in anyway going to boost our economy or inspire confidence from Foreign investors as to doing so in the UK.

Then at the end of the years of negotiations the UK could I think very likely find itself running around just making up strongly lost ground, even just to get back to the point where we are today again.

The reality is that the markets have already adjusted to an out result. If the result is remain, there will be an immediate bounce in the markets.

what we wont see, is the erosion of companies and jobs over time if we vote out. it will just be attributed to a global downturn. The other side of it is in 5-10 years we will see a rise in inflation, but again, its all to easy to attribute that to some other event

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I personally fear things will happen Cherie.

It will be years for sure but the uncertainty around for those years of what deals may be done, and deals won or not won.
What conditions will apply eventually, not known too for some considerable time,either as to an EU deal or deals around the World.

That is not in anyway going to boost our economy or inspire confidence from Foreign investors as to doing so in the UK.

Then at the end of the years of negotiations the UK could I think very likely find itself running around just making up strongly lost ground, even just to get back to the point where we are today again.

I'm voting in Joey, better the devil you know, that said I think it's so close which is why the government are desperate to extend the deadline

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If we leave nothing will happen overnight, it will be years before anything is sorted

Yep i agree.I don't think we will see anything happen quickly either way.I do however think that the EU commissioners have a few things up their sleeves that they are waiting to implement after our referendum,Things we probably won't agree with that they will have put on hold until we vote to remain or leave,Things that would affect the vote.But like everything in the EU we will not see anything happen quickly.

[Cherie]

Deadline extended to midnight tomorrow, farce!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm voting in Joey, better the devil you know, that said I think it's so close which is why the government are desperate to extend the deadline

Hi Cherie

I do agree with that but I do hope and want from both sides the maximum turnout possible for this to be a really truly representative referendum.
It is bad enough that for many, it will sadly not be an informed choice vote due to this horrendous campaigning.

So overall myself,I am glad they have given more time now.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Deadline extended to midnight tomorrow, farce!

It's so all the illegal immigrants have a chance to vote remain.