[Liberty4eva]

If given a choice between going into a gender-neutral bathroom or waiting a few minutes to try and find a traditional man's or woman's bathroom what would you do?

[Firewire]

Gender neutral isn't an issue. Swimming pools are gender neutral. Yah you have a costume on but it's essentially the same thing.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Gender neutral isn't an issue. Swimming pools are gender neutral. Yah you have a costume on but it's essentially the same thing.

If you do the same things in your local swimming pool as you do in a toilet, I don't think I want to swim there .

In answer to the thread... If it was all cubicles then I don't see the issue. However, I don't know if I'd be OK getting the D out at a urinal in a unisex toilet. All of the ladies would be trying to sneak a peek at the goods and I'd get shy

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If you do the same things in your local swimming pool as you do in a toilet, I don't think I want to swim there .

In answer to the thread... If it was all cubicles then I don't see the issue. However, I don't know if I'd be OK getting the D out at a urinal in a unisex toilet. All of the ladies would be trying to sneak a peek at the goods and I'd get shy

Gender-neutral toilets don't have urinals I don't think

As far as I'm aware it's all cubicles

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

trying to sneak a peek at the goods and I'd get shy

Me when all the gays are trying to grab me in the TiBB men's toilets.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Gender neutral isn't an issue. Swimming pools are gender neutral. Yah you have a costume on but it's essentially the same thing.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Gender neutral isn't an issue. Swimming pools are gender neutral. Yah you have a costume on but it's essentially the same thing.

it is if you like to pee in the pool

otherwise it is unrelated

[T*]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it is if you like to pee in the pool

otherwise it is unrelated

You seem very anti-men wearing make up, camp, gender neutrality etc.
Why though?

[Good King Glennceslas]

What he said

[Jack_]

I would prefer to go into a gender neutral bathroom all of the time tbh

There's no reason to split toilets up based on sex. They exist for people to piss and sh*t in. Have a load of cubicles, go in, do your business and leave. It'd be safer for everyone if they were mixed.

[_Tom_]

Yeah, I have used them and would continue to use them.

Originally Posted by Jack_

I would prefer to go into a gender neutral bathroom all of the time tbh

There's no reason to split toilets up based on sex. They exist for people to piss and sh*t in. Have a load of cubicles, go in, do your business and leave. It'd be safer for everyone if they were mixed.

I don't think you can say that these bathrooms would be safer for everyone if mixed. We're already seeing them being abused by pedophiles and perverts. And there's also dangerous scenarios that are real possibilities, such as say a woman passing out in a bathroom after a night of drinking - a potential for more sexual assault, and certainly more sexual harassment.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Yeah, I have used them and would continue to use them.



I don't think you can say that these bathrooms would be safer for everyone if mixed. We're already seeing them being abused by pedophiles and perverts. And there's also dangerous scenarios that are real possibilities, such as say a woman passing out in a bathroom after a night of drinking - a potential for more sexual assault, and certainly more sexual harassment.

The more people using one bathroom, the safer it becomes.

The usual argument against it is that men being in the same bathroom as women puts them at risk of being attacked. Well for starters if a man wants to attack a woman in a toilet, he'll just enter the woman's toilet as it is. At least if they were mixed there'd be other men (and women of course) there to restrain them and hopefully put a stop to it happening.

If paedophiles and perverts want to attack people in bathrooms, they will do so regardless of who is allowed in what toilet. They're already considering breaking the law, I don't think a sign saying 'women only' is going to stop them.

There is literally no legitimate reason to separate the two that I can think of and all it does is create unnecessary division. The arguments to merge them universally far outweigh those to maintain the status quo.

[user104658]

Semi-related funny story : me and a mate walked into the toilets at a pub once, and a middle aged woman came out of a cubicle, saw us, and started properly screaming... Telling us to get away... Pushed past and ran out. She was freaking out so much that for a second I was like "**** are we in the wrong bathroom??" but then I was like no there are urinals.

I wonder if she thinks to this day that the ladies toilets were invaded by two strapping young men...

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Semi-related

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

me and a mate

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

two strapping young men...

[kirklancaster]

Having patronised 'Gay' clubs for decades in my youth, using a 'Gender Neutral' toilet is nothing new. I would not think twice.

[Northern Monkey]

Don't mind really.Where i used to work there was this old man who used to have really smelly ****s so i would just go and use the ladies regularly.
At festivals you used to go in a big wooden box thing over a pit with cubicles and the walls were only neck height so you would sit and **** next to and chat with men or women nobody cared.Many times in nightclubs women would run in and come and look at or in some cases touch your cock.I don't mind tbh.It's just a toilet.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Don't mind really.Where i used to work there was this old man who used to have really smelly ****s so i would just go and use the ladies regularly.
At festivals you used to go in a big wooden box thing over a pit with cubicles and the walls were only neck height so you would sit and **** next to and chat with men or women nobody cared.Many times in nightclubs women would run in and come and look at or in some cases touch your cock.I don't mind tbh.It's just a toilet.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

[Ninastar]

Meh I dunno. I wouldnt be very comfortable with the thought of going into a bathroom with men in it. For my own personal reasons really. If I was really, really desperate I'd just run in and go but thats only if I had to.

[Greg!]

I don't get why people would feel unsafe in a gender neutral toilet? If you are uncomfortable with being in the same room as the opposite gender then logically you'd feel unsafe in all sorts of places like work, school, the street etc

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I don't get why people would feel unsafe in a gender neutral toilet? If you are uncomfortable with being in the same room as the opposite gender then logically you'd feel unsafe in all sorts of places like work, school, the street etc

Yeah I wonder why rape victims would feel uncomfortable getting their pants down in an area with the gender who raped them

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Yeah I wonder why rape victims would feel uncomfortable getting their pants down in an area with the gender who raped them

But they were most likely raped by someone who entered a toilet they weren't allowed in

A sign above the door doesn't change anything. If someone is planning on attacking someone, they will just do it. At least if the toilets were mixed then it'd usually be likely more people were around which in turn makes it safer

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But they were most likely raped by someone who entered a toilet they weren't allowed in

A sign above the door doesn't change anything. If someone is planning on attacking someone, they will just do it. At least if the toilets were mixed then it'd usually be likely more people were around which in turn makes it safer

Yeah, anyone can get attacked anywhere, that's not the point. I'm pretty sure a person who has been raped by a male or a female, isnt going to feel comfortable going to the toilets with that gender in there too. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to think 'ah well its okay cause i can get raped anywhere, anyway', they're going to do anything they can to try and avoid contact with that gender, and gender neutral toilets are the last place they'd want to go.

LT makes a good point about drunk men at football games and the likes. I'd hate the thought of having to share a bathroom with drunk men. I might be labelled sexist, but I don't care. People shouldnt have to explain why they would feel uncomfortable with it. It doesnt make them sexist or transphobic. Some people will just never be comfortable with it and we should hate on them for it.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Yeah, anyone can get attacked anywhere, that's not the point. I'm pretty sure a person who has been raped by a male or a female, isnt going to feel comfortable going to the toilets with that gender in there too. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to think 'ah well its okay cause i can get raped anywhere, anyway', they're going to do anything they can to try and avoid contact with that gender, and gender neutral toilets are the last place they'd want to go.

LT makes a good point about drunk men at football games and the likes. I'd hate the thought of having to share a bathroom with drunk men. I might be labelled sexist, but I don't care. People shouldnt have to explain why they would feel uncomfortable with it. It doesnt make them sexist or transphobic. Some people will just never be comfortable with it and we should hate on them for it.

This surely means that no-one is going to be happy though?
Raped woman feel uncomfortable around men in bathrooms
Transgender people feel uuncomfortable having to choose between the two in case the reaction is bad in both cases
it's a lose lose
Surely if it was for the greater good of anyone that could be effected then it would just result in confusion