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Old 11-06-2016, 11:40 AM #26
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But then they probably wouldn't get in there in the first place as you generally have to really have an outspoken personality to get in there in the first place.No matter your colour.
If this point is true then Big Brother are creating stereotypes which is not great. I think there have been other black women who have not been like this who were entertaining with out being brash and angry. Makosi springs to mind and i think the black community were happy with this choice.
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Andy is a great guy tho and Jackson and Huey...if indeed, Jackson is bi curious, he may not be..
Agree. Hughie is great and definitely not a stereotype. I think he is a potential winner.
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I get frustrated with how black women are represented in the house....why so loud and so aggressive and so unreasonable ? We all know that's not what all women are like so why send in black women who are like that....why not intelligent people with style like the legendary Gina from 3 years ago....she was a fighter and feisty and intelligent with a f-ckin brilliant sense of humor.....Natalie is just not good...not good at all ....


Hate the stereotype. And Gina really was legendary.
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Well i personally don't think they should look at peoples 'communities' to select them anyway.Just look at the personalities.Will they be a good housemate?The best ones get through.
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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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You make some very fair points here.
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
I agree. It's all about the personality and actions, not the skin colour.
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She dared to not like that older lady referencing skin colour constantly throughout the conversation and Natalie dared to react against it and not just sit back like a "good little black girl."

To answer your question no I don't think that the black community should be a shamed of Natalie or Lateysha just yet.

I do think that us white people should want to disassociate ourselves from Laura and Marco though.
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
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Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
why use Georgina as an example, then rather use Laura as a example
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why use Georgina as an example, then rather use Laura as a example
Laura's already hated.
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Oh come on if someone like Georgina (sorry Nicky) behaved in the same way as Natalie she would not be being compared to Pauline or Carole or anyone like that.

Black contestants full stop seem to get put under much more scrutiny than the white or Asian Housemates and it's really unfair.

I mean just look at BB5 where Victor only opened his mouth against the annoying twat, and he ended up catching up on Jason and being evicted ahead of him when Jason had been disgusting all series.
Not for me Mock, and I'm sure many others are the same - if someone like Georgina reacted in the same way as Natalie and was so awful to Jayne when she apologised I'd feel EXACTLY the same way.
And I loved Victor and hated Jason....
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Are white people disappointed in Jayne/Ryan/Chelsea/Laura/Marco for not behaving impeccably last night and not representing white people properly? No

People only cry foul at Natalie because she dared to raise her voice once (!) when Ryan and Charlie have been more vitriolic in the past few days. But people are using this as an excuse to hate her and say she's another angry black woman. Lateshya is largely liked too but no one cares about a mile mannered, funny black woman because that's ~out of character~ for BB. No doubt people will find something to pounce on her too like Adjoa last year and she'll of course be evicted before people who have valid reasons to go. To liken Natalie to Pauline that some people are doing is a bit of a joke too.

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Oh god day 3 and already people are being accused of disliking a hm because if her skin colour.

It's actually become a bit of a joke on here, if you dislike a woman on the show who happens to be black people twist it into you disliking them because of race. Natalie was an idiot last night, she was obnoxious. I for one don't care what race a person is, if they act like a dick I'll call them a dick.

Happens every year
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I think it's a tad reaching to assume people are using it as an excuse to dislike her. From the start she's shown to be pretty stubborn and dismissive of the other housemates opinions, people have valid reason to dislike her that has nothing to do with her skin colour
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Oh god day 3 and already people are being accused of disliking a hm because if her skin colour.

It's actually become a bit of a joke on here, if you dislike a woman on the show who happens to be black people twist it into you disliking them because of race. Natalie was an idiot last night, she was obnoxious. I for one don't care what race a person is, if they act like a dick I'll call them a dick.

Happens every year
It works the opposite way too. If you like a black woman you're automatically categorised into the "you only like her because she's black!!!" box too.
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Laura's already hated.
so does this mean you want Georgina to be hated


or what's your point with naming my favourite as an example
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