[Amy Jade]

If there is a video of them laughing as Andrew claims he should prove it

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Things just don't add up for me but I have to say I do understand BB kicking him out if they got the footage The Sun posted, it's very disturbing to me and I don't see any similarity to what Marco and Laura did.

If the girl was indeed a willing participant then I'm glad it was an act and she wasn't hurt but Andrew has lied so much since he left I don't know fact from fiction. Anyway glad he's gone because he's woeful as a human being so no loss.

Him lying is true, he said it was over some 'plan' but it was about the video ;/

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jet

According to Andrew BB edited out the laughter in the video. What a crock of s***. Why on earth would they do that? I just can't see it. I think it's something else entirely and he's using the video as camouflage.
He gives me the creeps.

No, he said The Sun edited the video...which is entirely believable given their track record

[12bigbrother12]

Assuming she's a consenting adult I don't get the issue.

So they like a bit of whipping and slapping, so what?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, he said The Sun edited the video...which is entirely believable given their track record

He's got a pretty shocking track record himself with those tweets he's pretending he never sent and claiming he was kicked out over a 'plan' if he was innocent in regards to the video why not just come out with it instead of concocting a cover story?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

According to Andrew BB edited out the laughter in the video. What a crock of s***. Why on earth would they do that? I just can't see it. I think it's something else entirely and he's using the video as camouflage.
He gives me the creeps.

Really ? You think The Sun wouldn't do that ? The paper who fabricated a web of lies about the people who died at Hillsborough that was so corrupt it took 25 years to force them to admit it ... The paper that tapped the phones of parents who's kids were missing ? Everything The Sun does is edited and fabricated....of course they would have edited this... It's only 5 seconds long for a start so that's one example that it's been edited

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, he said The Sun edited the video...which is entirely believable given their track record

We'll see if he sues them or shows the real video with the laughter then.
I find it entirely believable that he is an obnoxious wanker.

[bitontheslide]

well, the guy has already spoken complete bollocks, so why are people suddenly taking his word for it about the video

The guy is weird, he has controversial views. Does that then preclude him from BB? Whats the point of having social interaction in a completely controlled environment like BB if its going to be actors as it seems to be now

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Really ? You think The Sun wouldn't do that ? The paper who fabricated a web of lies about the people who died at Hillsborough that was so corrupt it took 25 years to force them to admit it ... The paper that tapped the phones of parents who's kids were missing ? Everything The Sun does is edited and fabricated....of course they would have edited this... It's only 5 seconds long for a start so that's one example that it's been edited

I have no idea why they would care enough about a non entity wanker on a show which isn't the draw it used to be. Why they would bother to edit something that he could easily disprove by showing the unedited version. And why BB would kick him out before he had a chance to prove it was a set up. Makes me wonder....

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He's got a pretty shocking track record himself with those tweets he's pretending he never sent and claiming he was kicked out over a 'plan' if he was innocent in regards to the video why not just come out with it instead of concocting a cover story?

Well to be fair he's only been out of the house for a day and the tweets were deleted by whoever was running his account so unless he's seen the screenshots why would he remember things he posted four years ago? Some obsessive Big Brother fans might expect every housemate to remember everything they've ever said online, but most ordinary people don't

The 'plan' video was pretty stupid but are you really surprised he didn't want to acknowledge that what's effectively a sex tape he'd been filmed in was about to be published by a national newspaper? I see no reason why he should have to upload the full thing either, this is a personal video and it's of no business of The Sun's to be in possession of it, let alone to be publishing an edited version they've created (it's ten ****ing seconds ffs) without permission. They're disgusting and nobody should have to answer to them.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well, the guy has already spoken complete bollocks, so why are people suddenly taking his word for it about the video

The guy is weird, he has controversial views. Does that then preclude him from BB? Whats the point of having social interaction in a completely controlled environment like BB if its going to be actors as it seems to be now

What bollox has he already spoken ? He said he was kicked out for making a spanking video and for planning to not follow BB task plans and instead do his own that would cause chaos in the house ... Both those things he has clearly done before so no reason to assume those statements are bollox ... What other of his comments are you referring too if not those

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by hot2go

What bollox has he already spoken ? He said he was kicked out for making a spanking video and for planning to not follow BB task plans and instead do his own that would cause chaos in the house ... Both those things he has clearly done before so no reason to assume those statements are bollox ... What other of his comments are you referring too if not those

The reason he gave originally for his removal was branded completely untrue by Channel 5. Therefore = bollocks

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The reason he gave originally for his removal was branded completely untrue by Channel 5. Therefore = bollocks

Which reason you refer to ? I've only heard of the two and he has done both of them before

[hot2go]

People been saying channel 5 are staging most of BB yet telling us they don't .. Now channel 5 are a paragon of truth .... I can't keep up

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Which reason you refer to ? I've only heard of the two and he has done both of them before

He said he was ejected because he had a master plan which could be dangerous and BB was afraid it might lead to violence. Such a smart man with intelligent tactics, eh? He's a freakin nutter hot2go, get over him.

[MrWong]

His original reason was that he had an amazing master plan. BB decided his plan was too risky and that he had to leave

[Walter White]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well this is just pathetic isn't it, if the woman involved has spoken out and said it was consensual then what's the issue?

Not only do The Sun dictate who wins elections, they now have the power to get housemates ejected from Big ****ing Brother by taking videos out of context and dragging people's names through the mud. I cannot believe the producers have pandered to them. Unbelievable

Youtube video

[Rob!]

I don't get bondage at all

[Walter White]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't get bondage at all

Does this help?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well to be fair he's only been out of the house for a day and the tweets were deleted by whoever was running his account so unless he's seen the screenshots why would he remember things he posted four years ago? Some obsessive Big Brother fans might expect every housemate to remember everything they've ever said online, but most ordinary people don't

The 'plan' video was pretty stupid but are you really surprised he didn't want to acknowledge that what's effectively a sex tape he'd been filmed in was about to be published by a national newspaper? I see no reason why he should have to upload the full thing either, this is a personal video and it's of no business of The Sun's to be in possession of it, let alone to be publishing an edited version they've created (it's ten ****ing seconds ffs) without permission. They're disgusting and nobody should have to answer to them.

So the person who had control of his acount who deleted them just handed his account back over and forgot to mention the posts they deleted on his behalf? I dont believe for a second and I'm shocked you do.

Had I been in his situation and I was kicked off BB for a video I knew was innocent enough and featured the 'victim' laughing in the unedited version I wouldn't make up a dumb cover story no I'd post proof and show the producers up for their rash decision.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So the person who had control of his acount who deleted them just handed his account back over and forgot to mention the posts they deleted on his behalf? I dont believe for a second and I'm shocked you do.

Had I been in his situation and I was kicked off BB for a video I knew was innocent enough and featured the 'victim' laughing in the unedited version I wouldn't make up a dumb cover story no I'd post proof and show the producers up for their rash decision.

I agree, I don't know about you but I think telling two stories isn't going to get people to believe the actual truth. If he wants to clear his name then he needs to post proof if that video is even edited we just don't know because there's no proof of it. There's two sides to every story but by telling the truth you need evidence.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The 'plan' video was pretty stupid but are you really surprised he didn't want to acknowledge that what's effectively a sex tape he'd been filmed in was about to be published by a national newspaper?

Why not acknowledge it if the tape was innocent? Why didn't he explain then and there that the tape was edited etc etc like he did later? Why bother to tell an outright lie about the 'plan' when he knew the sex tape was going to be published anyway? So many whys and that's why he's seen as a bull sh'er.
He's a very unsavoury character indeed; he was so arrogant and obnoxious in the house, so I'm not unhappy that karma bit his ass.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by RoboCop

Does this help?

No but bless you for trying

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So the person who had control of his acount who deleted them just handed his account back over and forgot to mention the posts they deleted on his behalf? I dont believe for a second and I'm shocked you do.

Had I been in his situation and I was kicked off BB for a video I knew was innocent enough and featured the 'victim' laughing in the unedited version I wouldn't make up a dumb cover story no I'd post proof and show the producers up for their rash decision.

That's a fair point but the likelihood of someone wanting to own up to posting problematic tweets they can't even remember posting isn't very high regardless

What if he doesn't own an original copy of the video anymore though? It says in the article it had been shared around his locality years ago so what's to say an enemy of his or even just someone wanting to make a bit of money saw an opportunity and seized it by offering it to The Sun?

The point is he shouldn't have to upload a personal video for the world to see just because a disgusting rag has got hold of it and used it to tarnish his name and have him ejected from a television show. Moreover people should stop trusting what one of the UK's most abhorrent excuses for a 'newspaper' is claiming at face value just because they're desperate to hate a person they watched on TV for 48 minutes a night

If the woman herself has come out and said this was consensual, I see no reason why there's any need for more speculation.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jet

Why not acknowledge it if the tape was innocent? Why didn't he explain then and there that the tape was edited etc etc like he did later? Why bother to tell an outright lie about the 'plan' when he knew the sex tape was going to be published anyway? So many whys and that's why he's seen as a bull sh'er.
He's a very unsavoury character indeed; he was so arrogant and obnoxious in the house, so I'm not unhappy that karma bit his ass.

Because The Sun shouldn't be publishing this video in the first place? Why should he - a participant in a ****ing reality television show - have to comment on a personal video that nobody but those he shared it with should be witness to? He isn't obligated to and nor should he be, what should be the case is that a national newspaper shouldn't be allowed to publish videos like this and seemingly edit them (in the words of both people depicted in it) to not only drag someone's name through the mud, but have them removed from a programme they're taking part in.

It is beyond belief that anyone can justify that