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Old 15-06-2016, 04:25 PM #51
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Is it bad that the ones I feel most sorry for is the gators?
No.
Parents are irresponsible but the animals have to pay every time for it.
The alligator was just doing what is natural to him.
Poor kid, poor gator.
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It wouldn't of mattered if the child was in the water or close to the shoreline. Alligators often attack people near the waters edge.

I understand why they are killing alligators within that lagoon. Once they find or if they find the remains of that child in the contents of its stomach, that, as far as they are concerned puts an end to it. Sad as that may sound, its better than every angry person with a gun going out and shooting as many alligators as they can find. Vigil-anti attacks happen in cases like this but if the culprit is found, anger subsides and less animals suffer from revenge attacks.

When that stingray killed that TV personality people were angry and the consequences of that anger is, many hundreds of stingrays were needlessly killed by vigil-anti groups.
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Just about everyone who suffers an alligator attack are being irresponsible but irresponsibility can be born of naivety. That sign should of warned people not to go on the beach during dawn or dusk hours and it should of clearly said there were alligators in the lagoon.

How anyone could be angry with the parents for this tragedy is alarming.
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Yes DR just seen a report in the Mirror of a family sitting on a beach near the same place when an Alligator came out of the water, it was reported to security at the resort, but obviously Disney thinks more about profit than the safety of their guests
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Just about everyone who suffers an alligator attack are being irresponsible but irresponsibility can be born of naivety. That sign should of warned people not to go on the beach during dawn or dusk hours and it should of clearly said there were alligators in the lagoon.

How anyone could be angry with the parents for this tragedy is alarming.
Warning signs usually carry the reason for the warning..No Swimming..dangerous currents or whatever. No swimming, danger of crocs isn't the image Disney wants obviously
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No.
Parents are irresponsible but the animals have to pay every time for it.
The alligator was just doing what is natural to him.
Poor kid, poor gator.
yeah basically. I felt bad for the gorilla they had to shot as well. I just wish people see these news and they can be more careful
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The little boy's body was recovered. As tragic as it, is he was intact.
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A few Aligators been killed and cut open already aswell :-(
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So he died from drowning?
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It appears so.
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Well the alligator drowned him
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I'm so glad they have found his body and that the killings will now stop.

I know we get up in arms about killing an animal that was only doing what was instinct but think on, they do have a culling season (at least I know they do in Louisiana) where people become licensed crocodile and alligator hunters. There meat is sold along with their skins.

I read somewhere that Florida has a population of 15 million and there is one alligator for every 15 people. The reason they have culls is because the can't afford to have more alligators than the million they already have.
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Its so sad, I'm glad they managed to find his body but he must have been so scared, what an awful way to go
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At least he was found that's some comfort, poor little guy.
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..this sadly was doubtful of any other outcome..maybe the signs should have been more specific but then nothing like this has ever happened in the 60 or so yrs since Disneyland has been there..I think it's more now of changes and reassessments for the future...I hope that his parents/siblings get all of the support which is going to be so very much needed....
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Why not invest some of those massive profits and install Alligator 'proof'steel mesh barriers - anti-shark style - at a point off shore? It may not totally eradicate this horrific problem but it WILL reduce the odds of it happening again.

No matter how rare these type of incidents are, just ONE little child's death is unacceptable.
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Did they find his body inside an alligator ?
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Did they find his body inside an alligator ?
No, it must have dropped him and he apparently drowned it seems.
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I think this was just a tragic man meets nature accident and it does no good to start laying blame tbh.One thing's for sure people will learn from this and it will be less likely to happen again in the future.I know quite alot of things and i know about alligators in Florida and how they're often foundon peers and in peoples gardens and in parks etc however I wouldn't have known they also live in the sea.I struggle to believe that if the parents saw a sign saying there were gators in there that they would let their kids paddle in there.Maybe the signs are'nt clear enough as to the reason you should avoid the water at certain times or maybe the parents did'nt see the signs,Who knows but lessons will definitely be learned.
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Why not invest some of those massive profits and install Alligator 'proof'steel mesh barriers - anti-shark style - at a point off shore? It may not totally eradicate this horrific problem but it WILL reduce the odds of it happening again.

No matter how rare these type of incidents are, just ONE little child's death is unacceptable.
Indeed, I agree Kirk.
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There are multiple signs along the shore that say 'do not enter water'
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There are multiple signs along the shore that say 'do not enter water'
But do they specifically point out the potential danger from Alligators Glen?

When my children were little, I never cautioned them against any potentially dangerous action without explaining just WHY they should not carry out such actions.

I find that most people take more notice of warnings when the danger is spelled out.
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