[vesavius]

yeah, I know, I'm bored of talking about Andrew as well, but there does seem to be some double standards going on...

Andrew is removed from the house for some consensual spanking, but they have Natalie in there... A HM recruited for her background as a dominatrix and the sex industry.

It just seems a weird contradiction.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its nonsensical and wrong and andrew should sue them if that is the reason only

[Headie]

Natalie was not stupid enough to film herself doing the acts on camera though unlike Andrew

[Withano]

I was gonna say this last night but I couldnt be bothered to argue lol. I cant see much of a difference between Andrews video and Natalies career either.

[Jamie89]

It's very strange and I thought the same. It makes me wonder if there's more to his ejection though

[FwenchPussyCat]

It's just so obvious they have done what they done with Tila , recruited them knowing they were going to eject them at some point to gain publicity , they have commented on Ryan and said they will deal with comments made inside the house but NOT out! They kicked Tila out for comments she had made outside the house...

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by FwenchPussyCat

It's just so obvious they have done what they done with Tila , recruited them knowing they were going to eject them at some point to gain publicity , they have commented on Ryan and said they will deal with comments made inside the house but NOT out! They kicked Tila out for comments she had made outside the house...

And remember when Marc was caught for having made rape threat tweets, and nothing was done?

I suspect that you are right and that BB's ethics just shift based on what get's them the most column inches.

[Raph]

Couldn't agree more. Andrew was wrongfully robbed of his time in the house because of uneducated producers who are so worried about 'being PC' (without even understanding what that means, some diversity perhaps instead?). I hate that. Nothing wrong with consensual bdsm. It was so ignorant of BB to eject him.

[MB.]

I think there's a big difference between being "uneducated" (lovely turn of phrase) and being rightly fearful of the backlash you'll receive as a show when a national newspaper leaks a sans-context video of one of your housemates hitting a woman with a belt

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Raph

Couldn't agree more. Andrew was wrongfully robbed of his time in the house because of uneducated producers who are so worried about 'being PC' (without even understanding what that means, some diversity perhaps instead?). I hate that. Nothing wrong with consensual bdsm. It was so ignorant of BB to eject him.

It's not my thing, but anything between consenting adults is cool by me. I'm not sure why people get so hung up on what other's get up to for fun.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by MB.

I think there's a big difference between being "uneducated" (lovely turn of phrase) and being rightly fearful of the backlash you'll receive as a show when a national newspaper leaks a sans-context video of one of your housemates hitting a woman with a belt

It is an indication of the team being uneducated. They made an abrasive and rapid decision to eject him over a video that largely shows similar behaviour to what has been allowed in the house. Further, they choose to ignore the fact that it was consensual - something they should've tried to clarify before jumping to conclusions. Stuff like this happens in the bdsm world all the time. It's the least production should know.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by vesavius

It's not my thing, but anything between consenting adults is cool by me. I'm not sure why people get so hung up on what other's get up to for fun.

Agreed!

[LukeB]

He should never been casted in the first place because he was obviously used for ratings, they also shouldn't have casted him because he's a bigot

[Visage]

Things like this happen when the head doesn't know where the arse is.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Raph

It is an indication of the team being uneducated. They made an abrasive and rapid decision to eject him over a video that largely shows similar behaviour to what has been allowed in the house. Further, they choose to ignore the fact that it was consensual - something they should've tried to clarify before jumping to conclusions. Stuff like this happens in the bdsm world all the time. It's the least production should know.

A sign of them being uneducated would be them thinking the Battle of Hastings happened in 1957, not them not being experts in BDSM

And even if they did know all that, you can't say the general public would (over-)react the same, especially when the show's holding on to what's left of its reputation and would do absolutely anything to avoid losing it

[Raph]

Andrew's shrewdness, intellect and perspicacity was way too much for BBUK

[Raph]

Originally Posted by MB.

A sign of them being uneducated would be them thinking the Battle of Hastings happened in 1957, not them not being experts in BDSM

And even if they did know all that, you can't say the general public would (over-)react the same, especially when the show's holding on to what's left of its reputation and would do absolutely anything to avoid losing it

Uneducated, ignorant whatever you'd like to call them they lack an awareness and education about this topic, which is evident given the extremely fast removal of Andrew of fears of not being 'PC' enough.

And the argument about the general public holds little value with me, given the fact that they didn't choose to eject Marco or Laura, who also both consensually took part in BDSM related activities.

[Raph]

But sorry Andrew wasn't a blonde female, MB

[MB.]

The difference is, the Laura-Marco thing happened on their show, where they have control of the edit and can emphasise it as "risky sexual behaviour" or w/e

They had no control of the Andrew footage because The Sun were threatening to leak it and they spun it as abuse rather than anything sexual or consensual, regardless of whether it was or not

[Raph]

Originally Posted by MB.

The difference is, the Laura-Marco thing happened on their show, where they have control of the edit and can emphasise it as "risky sexual behaviour" or w/e

They had no control of the Andrew footage because The Sun were threatening to leak it and they spun it as abuse rather than anything sexual or consensual, regardless of whether it was or not

Pretty messy, disrespectful (to Andrew) and incompetent if you ask me!

[MB.]

Well that's Dan Wootton for you

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

It's very strange and I thought the same. It makes me wonder if there's more to his ejection though

We just don't know because he told two different stories so it's like really. But the video looked like the Daley and Hazel thing. Would it surprise you if he was in on it the whole time though? he did make 100k out of it and he's meant to be 'smart' despite drink driving whilst on his phone + his views.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MB.

The difference is, the Laura-Marco thing happened on their show, where they have control of the edit and can emphasise it as "risky sexual behaviour" or w/e

They had no control of the Andrew footage because The Sun were threatening to leak it and they spun it as abuse rather than anything sexual or consensual, regardless of whether it was or not

But the show shouldn't be pandering to The ****ing Sun of all things and allowing them to effectively tarnish one of their participants names by taking a video out of context and have them ejected because of it

Not only do they dictate the results of elections, they're now interfering in a bloody reality show. The producers should rightfully have told the disgusting rag where to shove it

[Pete.]

Natalie always wins

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But the show shouldn't be pandering to The ****ing Sun of all things and allowing them to effectively tarnish one of their participants names by taking a video out of context and have them ejected because of it

Not only do they dictate the results of elections, they're now interfering in a bloody reality show. The producers should rightfully have told the disgusting rag where to shove it