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Old 16-06-2016, 06:39 PM #26
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Two years have gone by so there must of been some evidence, but not enough to make it to court.
It's good that these cases are still taken seriously.
It's a shame that it was put in the media but then again more people could of come forward.
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Two years have gone by so there must of been some evidence, but not enough to make it to court.
It's good that these cases are still taken seriously.
It's a shame that it was put in the media but then again more people could of come forward.
ANY evidence makes it to court in cases of child abuse ....the guy has been proven innocent.
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A reputation like the one Cliff Richard has been given will stick forever, even though he's not guilty. The stress for Cliff does not end now and I wouldn't blame him at all if he left Britain for good.

I always believed he was innocent.
This is true, as evidenced here. Really sad (but pleased for him that he's been cleared obviously)
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With respect if there is no sufficient evidence to even charge him or even more to the point continue any investigation either, then there is absolutely no reason at all for him to suffer what you propose.

He hasn't been let off, there is nothing for him to answer to in the first place.

Maybe there should be for some that have accused him possibly falsely however.
They will wait until he's dead before they let it all come out ,just like they did with Saville,Freud,Cyril Smith ....glad one victim of Richards is pressing for an appeal,lets hope others do the same
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I'll reserve personal judgement until he's been dead for a couple of years. Obviously in the eyes of the law, he has not been found to be guilty of any crime.

That's about as much as I can say I guess.
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What a terrible thing to say ....the man was innocent and has been cleared of any suspicion...I hope he sues the person who made the false claims against him and I hope his career has a massive resurge because of this
You can only be found innocent in a court of law ....because of his mates in grey suits he escaped the courtroom
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He should take time to have a nice holiday now in Praia De Luz, one of his favourite holiday spots.
Yes ,he had a villa there, bit iffy don't you think ?
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ANY evidence makes it to court in cases of child abuse ....the guy has been proven innocent.
Sorry you are wrong in your reply!
Police gather evidence it is then given to the cps and they decide if there is enough evidence to get a conviction beyond reasonable doubt.
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Just going to say that there was nine people who accused him.
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Just going to say that there was nine people who accused him.
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This is conspiracy theory nonsense.

Not only the stuff about the allegations he's just been cleared for, but suggesting he also played a part in Madeleine McCann's disappearance and Cilla Black's deaths...?! It would be funny if it wasn't so low. And what was that bit at the beginning about the date having three 6's in it suggesting? Is Cliff meant to be the actual devil now as well. Words fail me.
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This is conspiracy theory nonsense.

Not only the stuff about the allegations he's just been cleared for, but suggesting he also played a part in Madeleine McCann's disappearance and Cilla Black's deaths...?! It would be funny if it wasn't so low. And what was that bit at the beginning about the date having three 6's in it suggesting? Is Cliff meant to be the actual devil now as well. Words fail me.
Ive rewatched it since i posted it ,and some of the things in it are fake i.e.: Cilla died in Spain .. IMO he was deeply involved in Jill Dandos death
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Let's hope he sues all of the 9 lying false accusers and exposed all their names in the sun too...they only target rich old innocent pensioners with these false allegations knowing theyre too old and weak to fight back, scum.

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Ive rewatched it since i posted it ,and some of the things in it are fake i.e.: Cilla died in Spain .. IMO he was deeply involved in Jill Dandos death
The whole thing is still unfounded conspiracy theory, even if you do believe some of it. I don't see it's relevance in a thread in the 'news' section tbh?
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The whole thing is still unfounded conspiracy theory, even if you do believe some of it. I don't see it's relevance in a thread in the 'news' section tbh?
Don't you ? Well don't feel obliged to look at it sunbeam
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Erm, I looked at it because I (mistakenly) thought you'd posted something relevant.
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Lol....if that vid had got the facts right it may have been a little more thought provoking. The Cilla thing is pretty ridiculous, not sure about the Dando thing.

the Maddie connection is weird considering the number of people who think her parents did it also now seem to be jumping on this too (people in general not necessarily on this forum)
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Oh the Jill Dando thing is an insane mess. She was known to be preparing to expose a vast amount of historic child abuse within the BBC / amoungst entertainers, that is a fact, and then she was "murdered by an obsessive fan". What seems to have gone mostly under the radar, for some bizarre reason, is that that said fan was aquitted, had his conviction overturned in 2008, and also received damages payouts from several of the tabloids. Jill Dando's murder is currently unsolved, and not being investigated. She was shot in the head with the gun pressed into her skull. She was executed because she knew too much about a person or various people, basically, people with enough influence to have her killed and get away with it.
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Oh the Jill Dando thing is an insane mess. She was known to be preparing to expose a vast amount of historic child abuse within the BBC / amoungst entertainers, that is a fact, and then she was "murdered by an obsessive fan". What seems to have gone mostly under the radar, for some bizarre reason, is that that said fan was aquitted, had his conviction overturned in 2008, and also received damages payouts from several of the tabloids. Jill Dando's murder is currently unsolved, and not being investigated. She was shot in the head with the gun pressed into her skull. She was executed because she knew too much about a person or various people, basically, people with enough influence to have her killed and get away with it.
I actually never knew that about Jill dando, i always thought her killer was caught and locked up (the obsessive fan)

I saw this re Cliff Richard this morning though, if that's true I hope they come down hard on that scum bag :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7089896.html
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I actually never knew that about Jill dando, i always thought her killer was caught and locked up (the obsessive fan)
That's one of the most suspicious things about the case IMO - her murder "by a fan" was HUGE news at the time... It was absolutely everywhere from what I remember. But the subsequent acquittal and dropping of all charges against the accused, while it was reported, was covered so quietly that most people if asked what they know about Jill Dando would still say that she was "killed by an obsessive fan".

The reopened investigation concluded confidently that she had been executed by an experienced professional killer, based on the kill method and efficiency, and a few other things but the trail by that point would have been totally cold - if a professional would even have left one to begin with... So her murder is basically unsolved.

Its pretty clear though that someone with connections and influence wanted her gone for something she knew, and based on what she was working on its very likely that was someone involved with the BBC. I think it's likely that she knew about a lot of the Saville et al. stuff, years before it all started coming out anyway, but who knows what else she knew. No one ever will, I guess . Someone made sure of that.
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It's funny that some some people seem to think they know more about this case then a taskforce who has been investigating Cliff Richard and cases like this for years.

If Yewtree didn't believe there was a case to be made then there probably wasn't. Unlike us they have access to all the facts and evidence.
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It's funny that some some people seem to think they know more about this case then a taskforce who has been investigating Cliff Richard and cases like this for years.

If Yewtree didn't believe there was a case to be made then there probably wasn't. Unlike us they have access to all the facts and evidence.
Some people might wonder 'Why have you been investigating Cliff Richard for years'?
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So where does this leave the value of my signed Cliff Richard DVD is it worth more or less now? Im not a fan but i won it a few years ago.

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