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Old 24-06-2016, 03:24 AM #1
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Default Jayne and Natalie are very similar people

Jayne is in denial, but her and Natalie are obviously very similar. They're both overly defensive, "strong-willed" quick tempered individuals with no sense of humor. When either can't have the last say, they take the "high ground". Both profit from the business of perverts.

Jayne thinks she is morally superior on many levels but that's somewhat delusional. She quite literally is making money off the same people whose Natalie's business caters to. She's not curing cancer or changing the world.

There's definitely an air of competition there.

It reminds me of Perez Vs. Katie Hopkins, where Perez's spiel was he was the righteous one and Katie's is WYSIWYG.
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''Perverts''...........really ?
Because some people are more sexually adventurous than yourself it doesn't make them a pervert!
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..I would say that Jayne is emotional/emotionally driven/and emotionally attached in her personality... and Natalie is completely unemotional in her actions, reactions and words and very detached from people...so I don't see any similarities at all...I would say that they clash because they're more or less opposites....
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Jayne is not rude and looking for fights in her nature. For Natalie it's the fuel the makes her go through life (and then wondering why people get against her).
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both from different lines of work but both strong woman and want to be in power - the truth is - none deserve it.
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Natalie's type of work is something I acknowledge and respect ...it provides a service and gives its clients what they need or want...it has nothing to do with abuse or manipulation. The client gives their consent, they are not targets or trapped in any way except willingly for pleasure.. Natalie's type of work doesn't have innocent casualties caught up in the mix.
I believe Natalie has more integrity than Jayne so I don't think they have the same tick on the world.

But I do think they are both incredibly strong women and both fight their corner and are both very good for the show.
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They have some similarities but some major differences. Jayne reacts whereas Natalie provokes. Jayne doesn't enjoy the arguments whereas Natalie relishes them. Jayne defends others whereas Natalie targets others. And if could go on......

Jayne is fiercely loyal, supportive of others and has shown kindness and compassion when others have been stressed or upset. Natalie, on the other hand, has shown herself repeatedly to be a nasty, vindictive, manipulative and selfish individual who seems to get a twisted pleasure out of upsetting as many others in as many ways she can.

I am focusing here on their behaviour within the house, rather than outside, and to me they are chalk and cheese.
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Manipulative people who use sex for monetary gain whilst ruining others lives. Yep, definitely similar.
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I dont think theyre similar really. I think they just hate each other.
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''Perverts''...........really ?
Because some people are more sexually adventurous than yourself it doesn't make them a pervert!
hahaha, I never said being a pervert was a bad thing!

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They have some similarities but some major differences. Jayne reacts whereas Natalie provokes. Jayne doesn't enjoy the arguments whereas Natalie relishes them. Jayne defends others whereas Natalie targets others. And if could go on......
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Jayne is not rude and looking for fights in her nature. For Natalie it's the fuel the makes her go through life (and then wondering why people get against her).
That is one of their major differences. Jayne is the Moral Right and Natalie is the Queen of Mean. Both play different personas. I 100% agree with all your points.

Here is where I can see some of their similarities:

-Jayne can be just as vicious, vindictive as Natalie and domineering. Remember her threat to Natalie about "destroying her?". Her meddling with Chelsea?

-Jayne and Natalie both like to put their noses in everything and poison the well so to speak. They both drop truth bombs if they sense a potential threat. They would not do that to someone they could potentially use in some manner.

-Both need crave constant attention and validation when they're upset or agitated. I mean how dare anyone think anything negative of them. We must be ridiculous. Remember how Jayne almost lost it because people kept voting her "least funny" and "most fake". Natalie was just as childish and she wouldn't even give them the satisfaction to go up to the podium. Both needed to make a scene because they crave attention and validation for once-again putting themselves on the line.

-If they feel threatened or if their arguments fail, they kick off. Jayne cries, wails and moans about but Natalie rages. Both are childish, self aggrandizing tantrums meant to get more attention and to distract from their actual motives.

-Both utilize the victim card to get what they want. Remember Natalie pulling the race card? Jayne does the same every time she pulls the Chelsea card.

-They are both opportunistic divas whose work involves exposing rich, powerful and horny men. Natalie is paid to do it, but she has also written a book and has had "tell-alls" within the media. Jayne was in a rush to expose Chelsea as fast as she could. Jayne may have been the more socially acceptable persona of the two, but she stands to benefit financially just as much as Natalie with all her meddling.

-It's not difficult to see either with Natalie's list of clients, Jayne could have a very healthy business. Will they ever work together? Probably not, but while not all Natalie's are cheaters, but a good portion of people in marriages and committed relationships do cheat. The difference is Natalie is paid and given consent to expose and humiliate her clients (well, mostly ), but Jayne is in the business of exposing them, period.

-Take away their TV personas and we get two deeply embittered, judgemental and vindictive pieces of work who would sooner stab you in the back for their own benefit if they could find a way to justify it.

Bottom line, I'm not saying they are the exact same people but I see a lot to draw comparison from. Natalie will likely be voted off, but if she isn't, they are both two of the most interesting HM's in there right now...
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