[Denver]

I dont see the major problem of voicing your opinion and saying you dont want foreigners in Britian as long as it doesnt become a hate crime.

Im happily admit people need to be deported starting with the large number of criminals who are wasting tax payers money living a better life in our prisons, they should deport all foriegn criminals and hand them life long bans from Britain.

[StephenPullen]

Unfortunately, when you fail to listen to the will of the people, racism and defensiveness will surely rise. The politicians of the UK are the ones to blame for not listening to what the majority of the electorate want - eventually the people are going to take control back and it won't always be politically correct nor what the bleeding heart brigade desire. That's what happens when you take the piss out of ordinary people for far too long. Sad but true.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You mean tongue in arse cheek

Hey Sherriff

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hey Sherriff

Hello, my fellow virgo

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Unfortunately, when you fail to listen to the will of the people, racism and defensiveness will surely rise. The politicians of the UK are the ones to blame for not listening to what the majority of the electorate want - eventually the people are going to take control back and it won't always be politically correct nor what the bleeding heart brigade desire. That's what happens when you take the piss out of ordinary people for far too long. Sad but true.

Racists are responsible for their own ****ing racism.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not surprising, the extreme elements (IE not all of the Brexit voters, so calm your tits) of Brexit feel their actions are vindicated by the results. Racism is going to be a bigger problem going forward because the racists feel enabled by the vote to spout their bull****.

Just another glorious side effect of Leave winning. Has anything good come from voting out yet? Racism's on the rise, all of the campaign promises have been dropped in less then a week and the world hates us. Brilliant job UK, really well done.

Outside of london and the media, the country is rejoicing at the leave vote.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Racists are responsible for their own ****ing racism.

Immigrants are responsible for their own actions too.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Are you talking about EU migration? because entrants needing visas are very heavily scrutinized by our immigration system. A friend of mine has been engaged to an African American for four years and for four years she’s been trying to get him over here without success. He’s been allowed to visit Britain but he’s not allowed to stay for anything other than a short holiday and its the same for her going to the U.S.

Well immigration in general needs to be checked and planned for.All immigration could be handled better but it's predominantly EU immigration that's currently letting the side down as it is uncontrollable until we fully get out.

[StephenPullen]

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

[StephenPullen]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Racists are responsible for their own ****ing racism.

Do you even know what racism is?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

We are all racist to a point no matter how much you say you are not.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

No of course its not!
There’s a difference between individual bias and structural racism.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one



Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

What about telling polish people to go home?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

If you look at the incidents listed in the OP and think that's okay then it's fairly obvious that you can't tell the difference between racism and taking a stance against immigration and that says it all really.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Do you even know what racism is?

I do but you are apparently confused on the issue.

[StephenPullen]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one



Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

Of course it is - but I thought the EU referendum was about uncontrolled European immigration (something that this country cannot cope with). Having a problem with hundreds of thousands of young, jobless, working class men flooding the country when we already have a high unemployment rate is not racist, it's common sense. Anyone who is not concerned about this is either ignorant or deluded.

Applying the racist card to any discussion about uncontrolled immigration is just a short-hand way of shutting down the argument because people on the 'in' side have no opposing positive points. It was applied to UKIP for many years but the British public saw through the arguments and thus votes to leave the EU.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

We are all racist to a point no matter how much you say you are not.

Well no, that's the logic of a racist trying to make themselves sound less racist by tarring everyone with the same brush.

[StephenPullen]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I do but you are apparently confused on the issue however.

Well you're just repeating what I said - so you cancelled out your own argument #girlbye.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

What about telling polish people to go home?

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Jaxie just a quick question how will you feel if we remain in the single market and the associated continued free movement continues?

That depends on what the deal on offer is, whether there is a vote on it and how my country votes. From now is the time for negotiation about what happens next and in a democracy we go with the will of the people.

However, I see no point in staying in the single market if we have to pay 7% in fees when we can pay 3% in tarrifs outside it for the same trade. I don't really believe in the free movement of people for two reasons.

The first is that people coming from countries outside Europe to the UK do have a points system, for inside Europe to have no system is frankly unfair and discriminatory. Someone coming from Africa should have the same chance as someone coming from Latvia.

The second is that I believe we should have knowledge about who is coming and going. Someone coming to work is most welcome, someone convicted of a murder in another country should not be, so we do need to know and filter who comes.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And nobody was surprised, we officially are 'little britain' now.

That is a ridiculous thing to say about yourself but if you want to won the label you go right ahead. Though if you are worried about racism, that is one racist remark Europe often throws at us when we disagree with them.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

But the post I was responding too was saying that it is racist to say that to non white people.

What race are poles? If I tell them to go home and I am white, how can that be racism?

[Wizard.]

I do believe the whole "foreigners taking our jobs" is a bunch of BS when I went for a job interview there were some people from other countries and they never got through to the next round and I did...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Well you're just repeating what I said - so you cancelled out your own argument #girlbye.

I think the fact that you're defending racism because you can't tell the difference between it and arguing against immigration is all that needs to be said. You also defended racists by blaming politicians because apparently people aren't responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

It's quite suspect really.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

Xenophobic not racist