[arista]

Thats fine

Ref: LBC Global News Room


But after July 21st you MP's feck off on Holidays.



I say No MP has a Holiday this year
OK you lot

[bitontheslide]

i looking forward to brexit being voted down in parliament .... oh how funny it would be

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i looking forward to brexit being voted down in parliament .... oh how funny it would be

No that is not going to happen
Paddy Pants Down was on LBC Live,
he told Nic
they must respect the voice of the people


So MP's do what the Result 23rd June 2016
voted for

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

No that is not going to happen
Paddy Pants Down was on LBC Live,
he told Nic
we must respect the voice of the people

So MP's do what the Result 23rd June 2016
voted for

mps can do what they want, paddy doesnt have a clue ... we will see.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

mps can do what they want, paddy doesnt have a clue ... we will see.

Yes but on July 21st MP's go on Holiday


I say CANCEL their Holidays

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

mps can do what they want, paddy doesnt have a clue ... we will see.

There are MPs who do want to try to stop this, or have it put on hold for some time,from the Conservative party too.

It is also part of the Labour party issue too, Corbyn is for accepting the result but many Labour MPs want more caution.

Anyway, Paddy still has't eaten a hat after the election result last year as he said he would.
The Lib Dem policy already is to take the UK back into the EU.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are MPs who do want to try to stop this, or have it put on hold for some time,from the Conservative party too.

It is also part of the Labour party issue too, Corbyn is for accepting the result but many Labour MPs want more caution.

Anyway, Paddy still has't eaten a hat after the election result last year as he said he would.
The Lib Dem policy already is to take the UK back into the EU.

could the lords also delay it? I think they could. No one voted them into their position, they don't give a stuff.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

could the lords also delay it? I think they could. No one voted them into their position, they don't give a stuff.

If parliament is voting on it yes, if it only debates it with no vote and then division then no,if it has to gain permission of the Commons the Lords will have to debate it too.

I think the govt ,the leave side in the govt, which was a minority just,were wanting to try to bypass parliament, only coming back with the deal as to trade with the EU for MPs to accept.

This call is for nothing to be done without the consent of parliament as there is a move too to try to ensure it is MPs who decide when to trigger article 50, not just the govt.

It is an almighty mess and the task of dismantling all is going to be colossal,that is all before we can even begin to start negotiation a trade deal.
Which is why no one, except foolishly Andrea Leadsom wants to trigger article 50 quickly,since once that is done there is a clock going for 2 years to get all done as to the exit in that time.
Then the trade deal negotiations expected to begin after that.

[Cherie]

A prominent law firm is taking pre-emptive legal action against the government, following the EU referendum result, to try to ensure article 50 is not triggered without an act of parliament.

Acting on behalf of an anonymous group of clients, solicitors at Mishcon de Reya have been in contact with government lawyers to seek assurances over the process, and plan to pursue it through the courts if they are not satisfied. The law firm has retained the services of senior constitutional barristers, including Lord Pannick QC and Rhodri Thompson QC.

Their initiative relies upon the ambiguous wording of article 50 of the Treaty on European Union, which sets out how states could leave the EU. The first clause declares: “Any member state may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.”

One of the grounds of a likely challenge to the referendum is that it is merely advisory and the royal prerogative cannot be used to undermine parliamentary statute.

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According to Mishcon de Reya, the decision to trigger article 50 rests with the representatives of the people under the UK constitution. The firm has been in correspondence with the government since 27 June “to seek assurances that the government will uphold the UK constitution and protect the sovereignty of parliament in invoking article 50”.


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Kasra Nouroozi, a partner at Mishcon de Reya, said: “We must ensure that the government follows the correct process to have legal certainty and protect the UK constitution and the sovereignty of parliament in these unprecedented circumstances. The result of the referendum is not in doubt, but we need a process that follows UK law to enact it. The outcome of the referendum itself is not legally binding and for the current or future prime minister to invoke article 50 without the approval of parliament is unlawful.

“We must make sure this is done properly for the benefit of all UK citizens. Article 50 simply cannot be invoked without a full debate and vote in parliament. Everyone in Britain needs the government to apply the correct constitutional process and allow parliament to fulfil its democratic duty, which is to take into account the results of the referendum along with other factors and make the ultimate decision.”

The UK does not have a formal written constitution, so some lawyers have been dismissive of the legality of legal intervention, while others have been pressing for clearer guidance on the constitutional procedure.

Another legal initiative began last week to seek an opinion on whether the advisory status of the referendum means that it should be the prime minister or parliament that ultimately pulls the trigger on article 50.

A tax barrister, Jolyon Maugham QC, has launched a crowdfunding campaign on CrowdJustice to pay for advice from constitutional law experts.

“This is an incredibly important moment in our nation’s history,” Maugham said. “Everyone – those who voted both leave and remain – is entitled to be sure of the constitutional basis for removing the UK from the EU.”



Acting on behalf of a group of anonymous clients...Nicola?