[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

Same could be said for people saving Jason in the eviction because they fancy him though

I find him intriguing and interesting and he seems like a nice guy ,it's not all about looks

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He was rarely out of her sight. Do you not understand how a person with a controlling and obsessive dis order like Charlie can intimidate and suppress someone.
I know people that act completely different when their partners are around...it's sad to watch. Charlie was obsessed with Jason...she couldn't take no for an answer...she still believes she and he are in with a chance.
Look how she carried on after Jason gave Evelyn the shirt... You say there was nothing he couldn't stop or control?....did you not see him tell her many times that they were no longer a couple....every time she said "so long as I know where I stand"....and the very next day she was off again.
You can see in Jason's body language how chilled and relaxed he is since Charlie left....perhaps if Laura and Evelyn paid more attention to their friends situation instead of throwing themselves around anyone that's 'fit' and breathes they might have understood why he was the way he was.

They're in the same house so are bound to come across each other pretty much every day so of course she was rarely out of sight but you make it seem like she followed him around which I dont agree with.

As for the rest, we dont know what happened n their life before the house so cant speculate on whether her mere presence makes him feel uncomfortable. If looks like ti does, so again got to criticise him for not being strong enough to handle the situation..

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I find him intriguing and interesting and he seems like a nice guy ,it's not all about looks

Well then you just answered your own question then. Maybe...just maybe people find Charlie interesting whether she's in the right or not and they're defending her as a housemate rather than a person?? As you said, it's not all about looks.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

They are ALL gameplayers. Players in an elimination game are gameplayers.

He threw a hissy fit when accused of it before.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by tanussa

funny how some people choose not to have seen this, I find it unbelievable. why do they think she was called bunny boiler, even on bots.

I think they must have seen it ,but they need to overlook it as they need to hate him for something as there is nothing else.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Charlie is a bunny boiler who will thankfully never be loved again

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

Well then you just answered your own question then. Maybe...just maybe people find Charlie interesting whether she's in the right or not and they're defending her as a housemate rather than a person?? As you said, it's not all about looks.

Agree ,but people denying she was fixated on him.and saying she did nothing wrong when she clearly did.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He threw a hissy fit when accused of it before.

because he wasn't doing it then,he needs to rev it up big time now

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Agree ,but people denying she was fixated on him.and saying she did nothing wrong when she clearly did.

Well I don't think that myself but I just wanted to point out that people can find her interesting but still think she's a mess and how it's unfair to assume people could only defend her because they fancy her.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Knew he would.

If his "lack of impact" in ta house full of people is down to -one- person it just goes to show what a weak personality he has. And demonstrates his terrible interpersonal skills. Lol.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Speedster

If his "lack of impact" in ta house full of people is down to -one- person it just goes to show what a weak personality he has. And demonstrates his terrible interpersonal skills. Lol.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

because he wasn't doing it then,he needs to rev it up big time now

He was. It was his Mr Nice Guy act.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He was. It was his Mr Nice Guy act.

Are you in his head ,imo he wasn't,he is a nice guy, imo its no act.

[hot2go]

He was correct and the girls realised when he explained it to em...you could see the penny drop as they stood there gawping.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You don't seem to like men that much tbh

A new low.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by tanussa

funny how some people choose not to have seen this, I find it unbelievable. why do they think she was called bunny boiler, even on bots.

To make her look worse than him.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

They're in the same house so are bound to come across each other pretty much every day so of course she was rarely out of sight but you make it seem like she followed him around which I dont agree with.

As for the rest, we dont know what happened n their life before the house so cant speculate on whether her mere presence makes him feel uncomfortable. If looks like ti does, so again got to criticise him for not being strong enough to handle the situation..

So had Jason been 'strong enough' and on the 6th occassion told her to just " **** off and leave me alone...I don't want you in my life anymore"....you think that would make him a stronger person and in control???
Jason, by keeping it together and keeping his dignity and behaving like a gent he took complete control and showed an amazing strength of character.
We all clearly saw what a bunny boiler Charlie was...we could all see how her presence suppressed Jason...you must be blind if you didn't see it. He s right to blame Charlie for his change of behaviour....we saw it..and he knows it and he admits it. What's wrong with that?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Speedster

To make her look worse than him.

She was worse than him....Jason's great.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So had Jason been 'strong enough' and on the 6th occassion told her to just " **** off and leave me alone...I don't want you in my life anymore"....you think that would make him a stronger person and in control???
Jason, by keeping it together and keeping his dignity and behaving like a gent he took complete control and showed an amazing strength of character.
We all clearly saw what a bunny boiler Charlie was...we could all see how her presence suppressed Jason...you must be blind if you didn't see it. He s right to blame Charlie for his change of behaviour....we saw it..and he knows it and he admits it. What's wrong with that?

Not if he's the character he claims to be. The one who 'puts up with things'. Again, he was so full of sh*t in that section I would wonder how anyone couldnt see it.

He handled Chalrie the best way he knew how. I dont deny that but that IMO was cowardly and weak.

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Speedster

To make her look worse than him.

der! thats because she was, by more than 100%. pity any man she gets her grips into in the future. take your blinkers off

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She was worse than him....Jason's great.

Jason is weak. He didn't stand up to her at all so it dragged on and on. She's not a monster you know, you're making her out to be worse than she was in my opinion.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by tanussa

we've all seen how obsessive charlie was, jason has tasted it first hand. he knows how nasty charlie gets if he associates with other females and was trying to protect them & I suppose himself from her jealous temper. dont know how anyone can pick fault on how he handled the charlie thing, yet can defend charlie.

But we only have his word for that......

We certainly saw someone who was obsessive and tearful, but did we really see someone who was 'nasty' or who had a 'temper', and who others needed protecting from?

Has Jason actually planted an idea that everyone has just fallen into believing because he has presented himself as terribly reasonable and honest?

[Mystic Mock]

He has the knowledge of knowing that Alex has beaten him for the number one spot for entertainment.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm ignoring it all its just a wind up,its obvious what he meant,charlie had told him not to go for any of them !!! selective deafness or blinding hatred take your pick.

Why is a difference of opinion a wind up, selective deafness or blinding hatred? Surely it's just a difference of opinion......? Confused!

[Maru]

This is so ironic to me because they're both game players, but the game they were playing was isolated from the whole rest of the house ceased while they were co-existing. Both had to control the narrative of each other's relationship. The knew each others weaknesses and were pushing buttons to get the other's "true colors" to show. It was 100% mutual ... and of course he would've made enemies. He himself said he is supposed to be "bigger" one which means he also needed to have been the mature one and ended that quickly.

The hilarious part though is she gets voted out and Jason suddenly realizes he had other relationships he neglected and blames her? Really? That's not Charlie's fault, he made a choice to continue the silly codependency with her than to enjoy his experience. So yes, he can blame the tension he felt on her, but if he had seen it for what it was, he could've given himself permission to exit that situation quite easily.

Sadly, not sure he will be able to recover from this with the public. And he will be still be moaning about her once he gets out. Pathetic. What a waste of an experience