[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Honestly, the restraint this man has shown in that house is unbelievable.
EVERYTIME he tries to express his views he is either shut down or laughed at.
Sam was a total prick last night for his reaction. He WANTED Jason to get angry so he could run to BB saying he was afraid of Jason.
If this was on the outside Sam would have a couple of black eyes by now.
Jason has had to put up with a bunch of hypocrites in there.
Jackson, Hughie, Evelyn, Laura & Sam have all slated him & when he finds out he is supposed to just sit there & take it.
Hughie has aggressive meltdown after meltdown yet that's "just Hughie being Hughie".
I was not a Jason fan but these past few nights I just feel BB are setting him up to get into a physical fight with somebody.

100% setting him up ,but thank God Jason is holding back, but I bet he wont once he's outside, then watch the Queens all run for the hills

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rocket

Jason is as bitchy as them all.. He has called everyone behind their back..
His fans just refuse to hear it ...

So true!

They all have good and bad points. It shouldn't be the case that if we have a favourite they are defended no matter what they do, and others are criticised or slagged off horrendously for the slightest thing. More balance is needed! Some people on here are like politicians putting so much spin on events that I'm surprised they don't topple over!

[*mazedsalv**]

Hughie wasn't bitching at all about Jason. I liked their talk in the garden.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Garfie

So true!

They all have good and bad points. It shouldn't be the case that if we have a favourite they are defended no matter what they do, and others are criticised or slagged off horrendously for the slightest thing. More balance is needed! Some people on here are like politicians putting so much spin on events that I'm surprised they don't topple over!

So how has Jason slagged any of them off ?

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Hughie wasn't bitching at all about Jason. I liked their talk in the garden.

What about his massive bitch in the DR about him
Jason in the garden was trying to help Hughie. Do you think if Hughie had been played a clip of Jason doing the same that Hughie would be trying to help Jason ?, no he would be freaking out & getting the entire house to gang up on Jason.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

What about his massive bitch in the DR about him
Jason in the garden was trying to help Hughie. Do you think if Hughie had been played a clip of Jason doing the same that Hughie would be trying to help Jason ?, no he would be freaking out & getting the entire house to gang up on Jason.

True ,Hughie is a coward where Jasons concerned, but Jason rises above it all and comes out showing what a gent he is, where as Hughie looks silly

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So how has Jason slagged any of them off ?

I didn't say he had- I was making the point that they all have good and bad points, and Jason is not exempt from that, despite the fact that his fans will not accept that reality. He is a human being, after all, not some supreme deity!

In terms of my 'slagging off' comment, if you read it again, you will see that I was talking about his fans, rather than Jason.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I didn't say he had- I was making the point that they all have good and bad points, and Jason is not exempt from that, despite the fact that his fans will not accept that reality. He is a human being, after all, not some supreme deity!

In terms of my 'slagging off' comment, if you read it again, you will see that I was talking about his fans, rather than Jason.

I have been watching Jason through this BB and I can honestly say I have not seen him do anything wrong,I am not going to say he has, if he hasn't ,the only thing imo that let him down was when he had a couple of down days ,but that is not a 'fault' is it ? it's human nature,so imo he has done nothing wrong

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I didn't say he had- I was making the point that they all have good and bad points, and Jason is not exempt from that, despite the fact that his fans will not accept that reality. He is a human being, after all, not some supreme deity!

In terms of my 'slagging off' comment, if you read it again, you will see that I was talking about his fans, rather than Jason.

Your post makes ZERO sense. So fans of other HM's are being totally unbiased
I said I was never a Jason fan but these past few weeks he has had everything thrown at him yet he is not allowed to defend himself without being called aggressive.
Others get away with being bitchy about him yet I don't see him doing the same thing.
Most of the hate he gets are still pissed off Lateysha fans who still think she had the "right" to win the show.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

What about his massive bitch in the DR about him
Jason in the garden was trying to help Hughie. Do you think if Hughie had been played a clip of Jason doing the same that Hughie would be trying to help Jason ?, no he would be freaking out & getting the entire house to gang up on Jason.

We're talking about last nights show are we not?

Despite the row with both Andy and Jason, Hughie didn't say anything after, in fact, he sat with them in the smoking area and they had a nice conversation.

There is no maliciousness in that house like certain years. No one actually dislikes each other. They have rows and then hug it out and talk to each other,.

Imagine Aisleyne and Grace hugging it out...

Or Makosi and Saskia...

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

We're talking about last nights show are we not?

Despite the row with both Andy and Jason, Hughie didn't say anything after, in fact, he sat with them in the smoking area and they had a nice conversation.

There is no maliciousness in that house like certain years. No one actually dislikes each other. They have rows and then hug it out and talk to each other,.

Imagine Aisleyne and Grace hugging it out...

Or Makosi and Saskia...

When Jason finally tried to get his point across last night he was laughed at & shut down.
That's not nice is it ?.
Do you really think that Sam & Hughie like Jason ?. No, they hate him.
When they have rows & then hug it's called being fake & not wanting to get nominated or come across as nasty.
Fake.

[Maru]

Haven't read through the thread, but I look at it this way. Andy and Jason in experience and time alone have much more authority, command and confidence in their own POV than most of the other house (aside from probably Jayne).

Hughie, for all his screaming, kicking and yelling comes across as a younger less experienced fellow so no doubt Jason is going to appear "aggressive" in gunning him down for his opinion. He's seriously outmatched. That's because Jason has a stronger command of not only his speech, but he knows his character and has a larger self-awareness due to this experience and that alone can end the debate hence Hughie and the others needing to counter it with their "charisma". Typical young versus old.

As much as I don't care for how Jason and Andy are choosing to play the game (and it just comes down to entertainment preferences for me), the others are intimidated when they speak because not only can they carry the entire conversation away from them, but they carry it in a forthright and assertive manner that if left unchallenged reads very well to the public...

Most of those that remain outside of Jason and Andy are not as confident as they purport themselves to be... so of course they're may resort to saying they feel "bullied" in order to find some relief from the two.

I'm surprised Jason hasn't been labeled as "oppressive" yet since he's broadcasted his view(s) on how freely Evelyn and Laura have expressed their sexuality in the house. Maybe because they don't want to have that argument given the way Marco was received by the public...

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

When Jason finally tried to get his point across last night he was laughed at & shut down.
That's not nice is it ?.
Do you really think that Sam & Hughie like Jason ?. No, they hate him.
When they have rows & then hug it's called being fake & not wanting to get nominated or come across as nasty.
Fake.

They do like him. I don't know why I'd want to spend time with someone I didn't like. I'd just ignore them.

And he wasn't laughed at. People as always spoke over each other. That's not malicious, that's just annoying.

Its the final few days, they just want to get along.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have been watching Jason through this BB and I can honestly say I have not seen him do anything wrong,I am not going to say he has, if he hasn't ,the only thing imo that let him down was when he had a couple of down days ,but that is not a 'fault' is it ? it's human nature,so imo he has done nothing wrong

Deluded or a case of selective memory then. He really must be Mr Perfect, I guess!

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

They do like him. I don't know why I'd want to spend time with someone I didn't like. I'd just ignore them.

And he wasn't laughed at. People as always spoke over each other. That's not malicious, that's just annoying.

Its the final few days, they just want to get along.

They are in a tiny house, they have to spend time together.
Did you watch last nights show ?. He was laughed at.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Deluded or a case of selective memory then. He really must be Mr Perfect, I guess!

Then give some examples of Jason being bitchy

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

They are in a tiny house, they have to spend time together.
Did you watch last nights show ?. He was laughed at.

He wasn't laughed at. The HMs were laughing at the situation that everyone takes everything so seriously.

Please tell me where Jason was specifically laughed at? No one even piped up apart from Sam.

They all wanted the last word.

Cabbage

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

He wasn't laughed at. The HMs were laughing at the situation that everyone takes everything so seriously.

Please tell me where Jason was specifically laughed at? No one even piped up apart from Sam.

They all wanted the last word.

Cabbage

Sam/Evelyn/Jackson all laughed.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

They do like him. I don't know why I'd want to spend time with someone I didn't like. I'd just ignore them.

And he wasn't laughed at. People as always spoke over each other. That's not malicious, that's just annoying.

Its the final few days, they just want to get along.

Ive seen Sam smirk at Jason ,once he saw him ,Jason wiped the smirk off his face

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

He wasn't laughed at. The HMs were laughing at the situation that everyone takes everything so seriously.

Please tell me where Jason was specifically laughed at? No one even piped up apart from Sam.

They all wanted the last word.

Cabbage

Sam,Evelyn,Jackson and Jayne were all laughing behind Jasons back last night

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

They do like him. I don't know why I'd want to spend time with someone I didn't like. I'd just ignore them.

And he wasn't laughed at. People as always spoke over each other. That's not malicious, that's just annoying.

Its the final few days, they just want to get along.

At last, a voice of reason!

It seems some people on this DISCUSSION forum don't understand what discussion means. Sometimes it's like you're not allowed to express your views unless you agree with those of certain forum members.

Well done, mazedsalv, for daring to put forward a more balanced appraisal of events. This is TIBB, not TIJB!

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Sam/Evelyn/Jackson all laughed.

Nervous laughter at the tone and over-reaction to Sam's attempt to calm things down?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Nervous laughter at the tone and over-reaction to Sam's attempt to calm things down?

Utter BS

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Nervous laughter at the tone and over-reaction to Sam's attempt to calm things down?

Why nervous ?. Were they scared of something ?.
No, they were just being childish............again.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Deluded or a case of selective memory then. He really must be Mr Perfect, I guess!

So whats he done that is soooooooooooooo bad,are you a Latesha fan by any chance