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http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...2002-3,00.html

[*Lorna*]

that's not true at-all! her PA informed fans

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daily start saturday cover cover

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Dear Jo

I knew you were talking rubbish in your tv interview. i suppose this was too taken out of context. people like you make this world a bad place. its your kind that effects race relations. i knew it. you chav.

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[Jay]

I wouldn't believe everything that comes through the daily star.

[S2]

This is the Daily Liar paper

[GiRTh]

What a peach.

[Psylocke]

jo should shave her head.........

[CharlotteSometimes]

Jo would be wise to avoid Shilpa at all costs. Anyone who spends a little time with her, but refuses to fall to their knees kissing her feet and to allow her to talk down to them simply because they're honest, decent - but working class - is accused of being a racist and a bully. But wait - that's already happened. No point in locking the gate after the horse has already bolted, huh?

[mansi]

Originally posted by Psylocke
jo should shave her head.........

lollll, why?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by mansi

lollll, why?

I think it's a reference to Britney Spears.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
Jo would be wise to avoid Shilpa at all costs. Anyone who spends a little time with her, but refuses to fall to their knees kissing her feet and to allow her to talk down to them simply because they're honest, decent - but working class - is accused of being a racist and a bully. But wait - that's already happened. No point in locking the gate after the horse has already bolted, huh?

I don't see that Shilpa - or any of the other housemates - looked down on Jade and Co because they are 'working class'. To be frank - I don't give a toss where someone comes from, geographically or financially, but I really wouldn't have enjoyed the company of Jade, Jo or Danielle if I had been in the house. If that makes me a snob, well so be it.

Honest and decent? I'd say Jade is honest, but certainly not decent. That much was clear from her behaviour in BB3! Danielle is neither honest nor decent. As for Jo - I'm not sure. I think she is a very fragile person who went along with who she perceived to be the strongest group in the house. Much like the way that some schoolchildren will hang around with the bullies just to avoid being bullied themselves.

[CharlotteSometimes]

They quite blatantly did, at every possible juncture.

She's clearly done a heck of a lot of growing up since then, whether victimised after the argument or not. I've skipped over Danielle whenever possible. Although I don't think she's a racist, I think she was the only hm who really did have a heck of a lot to apologise for once she left the house. Hardly anything to deserve death threats and the like, though. As for Jo, I found nothing to dislike about her at all. She was guilty of an absurd stereotype, for sure. Some people are told such stupid things and are daft enough to believe them, until someone sets them straight. Unfortunately, that didn't come until it was a little too late, after it had been said on camera and shown repeatedly. When she was laughing during Shilpa and Jade's argument, I'm not sure on the 'laughing because she was nervous' explanation. Danielle said something quite similar in her interview with Davina, too. I have known a girl like that in the past, but it's not something I've seen too often. It still wasn't anything worthy of deeming her a racist or a bully, though.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
They quite blatantly did, at every possible juncture.

She's clearly done a heck of a lot of growing up since then, whether victimised after the argument or not. I've skipped over Danielle whenever possible. Although I don't think she's a racist, I think she was the only hm who really did have a heck of a lot to apologise for once she left the house. Hardly anything to deserve death threats and the like, though. As for Jo, I found nothing to dislike about her at all. She was guilty of an absurd stereotype, for sure. Some people are told such stupid things and are daft enough to believe them, until someone sets them straight. Unfortunately, that didn't come until it was a little too late, after it had been said on camera and shown repeatedly. When she was laughing during Shilpa and Jade's argument, I'm not sure on the 'laughing because she was nervous' explanation. Danielle said something quite similar in her interview with Davina, too. I have known a girl like that in the past, but it's not something I've seen too often. It still wasn't anything worthy of deeming her a racist or a bully, though.

They might not have liked them, but how do you know it was because they are 'working class'?

Jade quite clearly has not grown up much since BB3. She's become more media savvy, sure, but is she any more mature? No.

[CharlotteSometimes]

I'm sure that wasn't the concept they viewed them in, since the term isn't really the same in America, for example. But they clearly looked down on them as lower in class than themselves. Everything they said or did was analysed and criticised. I use the term working class because that's what their backgrounds are, in the terms we use here.

I think she's a heck of a lot more mature. But yes, she got stung. I'm sure she agreed to go into the house again thinking that it would be a walk in the park, and she'd just bank the cheque after a few weeks and step straight onto the magazine circuit again for the next few weeks/months. I've never liked Carole Malone's newspaper column. She's a bitter old shrew who just slates people week in, week out, often for no apparent reason. But she'd always slated Jade too, until she came out of the house. Then she completely changed her opinion. If Jade was really as bad as she's painted, how did she manage to win her round? Clearly she saw enough to convince her that her previous impression had been wrong.

[Ruth]

I don't trust Carole Malone one bit. Just because she claim's to have changed her opinion on Jade doesn't mean that she really has done. Look at all the horrible things she said about WAGs before she went into the house, and yet she positively loved (or appeared to love) Danielle.

[CharlotteSometimes]

I don't see why she'd bother to put it in her column if she didn't think that way. There's certainly not going to be any gain in it for her, is there? I was very surprised that she didn't turn on the whole lot of them as soon as she got back to her computer, as it goes. She's not someone I'd put a great deal of faith in either, really. But I think most people have certain groups of people in mind that they'd never imagine themselves getting on with. Yet if they ever had the opportunity to meet them, I'm sure that they'd be able to find some common ground. I still don't think someone in her position would pass on such a golden opportunity unless she'd been positively persuaded otherwise, though.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
I'm sure that wasn't the concept they viewed them in, since the term isn't really the same in America, for example. But they clearly looked down on them as lower in class than themselves. Everything they said or did was analysed and criticised. I use the term working class because that's what their backgrounds are, in the terms we use here.

I think she's a heck of a lot more mature. But yes, she got stung. I'm sure she agreed to go into the house again thinking that it would be a walk in the park, and she'd just bank the cheque after a few weeks and step straight onto the magazine circuit again for the next few weeks/months. I've never liked Carole Malone's newspaper column. She's a bitter old shrew who just slates people week in, week out, often for no apparent reason. But she'd always slated Jade too, until she came out of the house. Then she completely changed her opinion. If Jade was really as bad as she's painted, how did she manage to win her round? Clearly she saw enough to convince her that her previous impression had been wrong.

This may be true of Jackiey but certainly not Jade. I recall both Dirk and Shilpa using the word 'smart' to describe Jade - misguided as that may seem.

I don 't think Jade is any more mature than in 2002. Would a mature girl go into a blind rage over Oxo cubes? I think Jade now has an ego and it's her ego coupled with a lack of brain cells that has got her into this mess.

[CharlotteSometimes]

'Smart' has so many meanings, though. Few of them are positive.

This is one of the reasons why I feel the need to bang my head against a brick wall. Shilpa started that argument, by being so incredibly pathetic as to moan about a few stock cubes. In all of BB history, it's difficult to think of another incident as ridiculous. Then again, I'm sure there was another agenda entirely from the outset as far as that situation is concerned. Everyone has an ego, and it takes a seriously inflated one to think you've any right to call people to task for consuming something that was equally theirs as it was yours in the first place.

[Ruth]

It wasn't a few stock cubes. It was (I believe) 75% of the stock cubes, in a week where food was low, and it was divided between 3 people! There were a lot more than three people in that house. A little bit of consideration would not have gone amiss.

Shilpa may have had another agenda, or she may not have done. None of us know.

[John15]

Shilpa shouldent of won CBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zachary]

^^ Why not? She was a worthy winner... no one else deserved it. Hater

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes


This is one of the reasons why I feel the need to bang my head against a brick wall. Shilpa started that argument, by being so incredibly pathetic as to moan about a few stock cubes.

The stock cube argument started when Jade flat out refused to, along with her crew, be JUSTIFIABLY confronted by someone for using up the majority of the stock cubes in a house where things need to be spared and shared. You can 'bang your head against the wall' as long as you enjoy it, but the fact remains that you are wrong, and nothing can help your case.

Originally posted by Ruth
It wasn't a few stock cubes. It was (I believe) 75% of the stock cubes, in a week where food was low, and it was divided between 3 people! There were a lot more than three people in that house. A little bit of consideration would not have gone amiss.

Youre absolutely right Ruth, and back in January when we were watching it on television it was a hot topic of debate, but here in March, where the incident is more or less laid to rest after rational people accepting what happened and the need for Devil's Advocates non existent, it bemuses me that we still talk about it.

[zachary]

^ Yeah, didn't they use THREE stock cubes for one serving pasta!! That is just stupid!!

[James]

It was Jade and co's reaction to the stock-cube incident that people didn't like. It was just so vicious and angry. There was a very nasty bitching session later on that didn't make it to the highlights either.

The bullying and bitching against Shilpa started long before the stock-cube incident, anyway.