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Old 27-07-2016, 02:44 PM #51
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What's done is done. Upon reflection Jason winning bears no relevance to how amazing this series was so I don't really care anymore
Yeah this! I'm not bothered anymore. We'e had worst imo but meh
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Look at all these bitter people.
Tbf not everyone liked Jason and they are entitled not to be happy
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Think that's a matter of opinion lol.
it was the opinion of all those who made him the winner, which apparently was a majority
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Look at all these bitter people.
I'm not being bitter. I said straight away I don't mind if you liked Jason winning. If it was a 0.5% vote and all, then yeah, it makes sense if 50% of the fanbase like this. I'm not stopping the past, even as much as I would want to since I hate Jason, but I'm just offering my opinion on why he as an individual is a very poor winner.
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Look at all these bitter people.
I see no bitterness on this thread, just analysis

No one here hates Jason or begrudges his victory, but there is plenty to analyse about him as a BB winner, from an outsider POV

Maybe shades of grey are too complicated for such basic black-and-white thinking and it's easier to simply pigeon-hole people who aren't fawning over Jason as 'bitter', rather than make the effort to read their posts properly and see that they are just making objective points, taking in both the good and the bad about him.
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He's a bad winner because he was boring, treated some of his fellow housemates awfully, didn't need to win and didn't even like the show.
tbh

(I mean Im not even that bothered, he's like, the second best winner we've had on C5)
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it was the opinion of all those who made him the winner, which apparently was a majority
Ok still an opinion mans I doubt every single person who voted for Jason to win think the same...
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Nobody hated Jason until he got rid of Lateysha and she wasn't even that good anyway? And sure Jason ~played da game~ but like, so did Lateysha. So did Hughie. So did Jackson.

IDK, I just don't see how this is anything to get worked up about. We've had some better winners but we've also had plenty of worse ones.
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My only issue with Jason as a winner is that I don't really feel like I know him. Like you said, he was reserved, and he held back a lot of his true self. So even if people like the Jason that they saw and voted for him based on that, I can't help but feel that his wariness of showing his true self kind of goes against what BB is about. And would he have won if he'd showed it?
Any of the housemates who were evicted because people didn't like 'x' about them, could have just hidden that particular flaw and possibly gone on to win. And surely voting a winner who has openly stated he's hiding certain aspects of his personality, is possibly going to effect how future contestants might behave/how much of themselves they show.
I liked Jason, but I wouldn't have voted for him to win based on all of that.
Personally, this is why I removed him my top fave to win list after he evicted Lateysha. You and I are on the same exact page, same paragraph on general impressions. I didn't understand it and though I still felt he was a good guy, I had no idea who he was even after that point and that for me goes against what the game is supposed to be about. I was not satisfied to just vote for a generally introverted/brutal gameplayer who has evil conversations with the dark villain slash logic magician Andy. I had hoped "he would've come out in a bigger way by now" I thought...

All that said...

Jason's winning is symbolic in this case because contrary to voting for a player based on a "winning personality", people voted for him based on a "winning strategy" (which his fans argue have a lot to do with he actually thinks and does as a person).

His win almost certainly stands out in an era of untimely accidents (such as Donald Trump's popularity) and referendums such as Brexit where people dare to buck the trend, maybe even dream and not just default to the most socially acceptable answer(s).

However I may feel personally about such developments, I'm actually thrilled, because it give us all hope that when the next BB rolls around, our "unlikely" favorites who we usually feel can't win against certain crowds could possibly rise up and come out over the top and even possibly win. In addition to this, we had our first boot being a male for the very first time.

If you ask me, these are all signs that BB is moving in a direction for the better, not for worse.

My two cents.

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Personally, this is why I removed him my top fave to win list after he evicted Lateysha. You and I are on the same exact page, same paragraph on general impressions. I didn't understand it and though I still felt he was a good guy, I had no idea who he was even after that point and that for me goes against what the game is supposed to be about. I was not satisfied to just vote for a generally introverted/brutal gameplayer who has evil conversations with the dark villain slash logic magician Andy. I had hoped "he would've come out in a bigger way by now" I thought...

All that said...

Jason's winning is symbolic in this case because contrary to voting for a player based on a "winning personality", people voted for him based on a "winning strategy" (which his fans argue have a lot to do with he actually thinks and does as a person).

His win almost certainly stands out in an era of untimely accidents (such as Donald Trump's popularity) and referendums such as Brexit where people dare to buck the trend, maybe even dream and not just default to the most socially acceptable answer(s).

However I may feel personally about such developments, I'm actually thrilled, because it give us all hope that when the next BB rolls around, our "unlikely" favorites who we usually feel can't win against certain crowds could possibly rise up and come out over the top and even possibly win. In addition to this, we had our first boot being a male for the very first time.

If you ask me, these are all signs that BB is moving in a direction for the better, not for worse.

My two cents.
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Nobody hated Jason until he got rid of Lateysha and she wasn't even that good anyway? And sure Jason ~played da game~ but like, so did Lateysha. So did Hughie. So did Jackson.

IDK, I just don't see how this is anything to get worked up about. We've had some better winners but we've also had plenty of worse ones.
The anti-Jason sentiment seemed to really start the week before (the week Charlie left) because she had sort of a cult status on here so he was blamed for everything bad that happened between them and then it just got more widespread after he dared to evict Lateysha but yeah I fully agree with this sentiment. It's one of the most random vilifications of a housemate I can recall.

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Before I start this, I want people to know that I am NOT bitter about Hughie not winning.
Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.
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Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.


Oh dear....never mind it's all over now...and they lost
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Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.
ok I'm glad I stopped stanning Hughie mid-series now after he said that
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He was also aggressive, grumpy and two-faced.
He should have been removed from the house for damaging cameras and fittings, no question. He received a favourable edit for the last couple of weeks of the show, which was awful to see.

How many of them damaged the fire escape doors without any sign of a fire?...nobody called them aggressive thugs and asked for their removal..
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Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.
He also says he's happy for Jason... and "He won it fair and square at the end of the day - there's not any kind of bitterness or any grudges I'm going to carry on, but I just think there's others like Alex, Ryan, Jackson, Lateysha."

I don't think he's bitter, he's just Hughie he can't help but speak without thinking what he's saying, and saying what he's feeling because he's a very open person.
In his opinion there would have been better winners but that doesn't mean he's bitter about Jason winning (I also think there would have been better winners but I still like Jason and don't mind that he won).
People seem to be calling out bitterness a lot when actually it's just someone expressing an opinion, or debating the winners merit. You can hold the opinion that someone else would have been a better winner (whilst even being happy for Jason winning), without being bitter
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Oh, you didn't just say that...
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..I doubt that Hughie has any bitterness, I doubt that many of the housemates have..it's all just more that they're echoing things that have been said on the outside and to get a little bit of income from their stories...that's largely why their times in there anyway..to 'raise profiles' etc and this is their highest income time when they've just left the house...it would be nice to think that they held onto their own thoughts about housemates because they know them best..'their worthiness' as it were..we've only had a very small amount of highlight from them all and very much 'slanted' to what BB want us to see...so it would be nice if they kept true to their own thoughts of the people they've come to know but well...it's showbiz baby and this is all part of their experience as well....
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..really, the 'smart' ones and the 'worthy' ones are the ones who can make the most out of it all now as well, in terms of their own advancement in what they want to achieve and pursue...
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A good and decent man won the show, so what's the problem. True, he was not "entertaining" in that childish immature fashion so well exemplified by the the tedious antics of the other chancers who were the real game players/two faced/hypocrites and bullies. I hope the series is starting to grow up and there will be more real people like Andy and Jason in future shows. Do we really need to endure self obsessed entitled wastes of space like Lateysha and co?
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Think that's a matter of opinion lol.
This whole thread is opinions. IMO Hughie sucked and should have been one of the first evicted. Jason and Andy and Jackson were my picks to win almost from day one.
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A good and decent man won the show, so what's the problem. True, he was not "entertaining" in that childish immature fashion so well exemplified by the the tedious antics of the other chancers who were the real game players/two faced/hypocrites and bullies. I hope the series is starting to grow up and there will be more real people like Andy and Jason in future shows. Do we really need to endure self obsessed entitled wastes of space like Lateysha and co?
No more needs to be said. Not everyone is entertained by immature actions.
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