[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

saying Saira is being bullied is an insult to chicks like shilpa and nadia.

I agree with this actually. The need for someone to be bullied each year is just ridiculous. Disagreements/arguments are not bullying....even if it involves your fave or someone you dislike.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I agree with this

The point of the thread isn't "everyone is racist to Asian girls!!!", it's like you said, more of pointing out that coincidentally all the South Asian girls on the show have had a hard time with their experience and there isn't really an explanation why

Yeah I don't think there'll ever be an explanation for it. It could sometimes be a case of people excluding themselves because of their race rather than being excluded (just a theory, I've seen a lot of this in real life), but obviously it boils down to how the housemate identifies themselves.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The racist limericks for example, that only came out afterwards due to the Ofcom investigation.

- Danielle calling Shilpa a dog.
- Jo and Danielle saying Indians are thin because they're always sick from undercooking their food and the comments in regards to eating with hands.
- Jack allegedly calling Shilpa a 'p (rhymes with tacky) cunt'.
- Accent mimicking

All took place before the big argument between Jade. It was the 'Shilpa Poppadom' thing that came after the argument iirc and the unaired limerick.

[Maxxie.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

It's not just women

Shabaz as well and kinda Pav he was never accepted by his HMs the way Zoe was (idk if they are southern Asian I'm just bringing it up)

I was thinking Sree from BB10 as well who also got accused of being bullied. It's not an exuse but a lot of these people mentioned just happen to be a bit annoying and yes there a plenty of white british housemates who were also just like that but I think the reason why south asians are often outcasted could possibly be due to backgrounds (this is very stereotypical).

White british families tend to be a lot less reserved than south asian families, it's a fact. Asian families are usually very religious and in countries like India and Pakistan the children are expected to highly respect their parents and be very obediant. Of course this is not always the case but statistically there's more likely to be an argument or something in a white british family than an asian family, especially working class white families.

This is probably why working class white (or black) housemates are usually the loudest because asian housemates perhaps have a more reserved way of sticking up for themselves which could be considered patronising because they might not be screaming & swearing in somebody's face.

So I'm not really suprised that south asian housemates tend to be outcasts but it's definately not a deliberate race thing just a clash in upbringings imo.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

I swear some housemates (it might not have been Conor) made fun of Deana's Indian culture but they just didn't air it

Yeah Ashleigh and Scott were mocking Indian's eating with their hands when Deana apparently did it. It was aired and they both got warned for it.

[Pete.]

Don't think Sree was bullied (maybe a little by Marcus). Iirc his immediate response to people was 'shut up' which isn't the best thing

[karezza]

They make themselves outsiders.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

saying Saira is being bullied is an insult to chicks like shilpa and nadia.

Yes it is

[Heaven = Winner]

Shilpa and Deana both were definitely racially-instigated, for sure.

As for Saira, I love the good sis and she is a good girl, but I think she's generally not coming across the right way. She had good intentions, but she's just doing everything wrong in terms of how she's executing those intentions.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Don't think Sree was bullied (maybe a little by Marcus). Iirc his immediate response to people was 'shut up' which isn't the best thing

Sree was more 'bullied' than Saira isn't being bullied.

[armand.kay]

wow Sree was just a sweet angel who was attacked for wanting to wife noreen.

[Macie Lightfoot]

bc people mistake them for being black.........x

[Pete.]

Sree annoyed even me watching. Him trying to poison Lisa is a top 10 moment though

[Heaven = Winner]

Sree was...awkward. I don't know if that was a race thing, or because people genuinely found him uncomfortable to be with (then again, most of those people were dicks anyway)

[jaxie]

I think Saira has made herself an outsider. There is no bullying going on at this stage and no racism. It's all self inflicted.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

bc people mistake them for being black.........x

omg babs I know, it's terrible

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Sree annoyed even me watching. Him trying to poison Lisa is a top 10 moment though

wow you need to repent.

[Mullens123]

I don't know how much race plays into it. Ive read stuff about people being less trusting of other races subconsciously... But being black ive personally never found this. I think a lot of it is down to being a smart and sophisticated woman they're probably intimidated by the fact Saira can hold herself without needing to go on about drink, sex or just make a fool of herself

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Sree annoyed even me watching. Him trying to poison Lisa is a top 10 moment though

Welp I don't remember this (I really need to rewatch BB10) what did he do?

[Mullens123]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Welp I don't remember this (I really need to rewatch BB10) what did he do?

He made everyone bacon sandwiches and didn't cook the bacon. I didn't like Sree but we can't say he didn't try to bring Lisa's reign of terror to an end much earlier than it lasted

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Heaven = Winner

Shilpa and Deana both were definitely racially-instigated, for sure.

As for Saira, I love the good sis and she is a good girl, but I think she's generally not coming across the right way. She had good intentions, but she's just doing everything wrong in terms of how she's executing those intentions.

Yeah I'd agree with this (part of the reason I like her is because she is so blunt)

Although I think Bear blew things out of proportion (as well as being human trash generally) and what Marnie did at the end was really unnecessary

[Northern Monkey]

[Heaven = Winner]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Yeah I'd agree with this (part of the reason I like her is because she is so blunt)

Although I think Bear blew things out of proportion (as well as being human trash generally) and what Marnie did at the end was really unnecessary

Oh yeah, exactly. It's sad because some people are just gonna take Bear and Marnie's side anyway because of how Saira's coming across, when that doesn't excuse their behavior at all.

[hot2go]

She's making herself the outsider, it's not about being Asain....she's self righteous and it pushes people away

[hot2go]

Their behaviour is worse than hers but that doesn't make her suddenly any better, she's also a pain in the arse ...just not on their level tonight