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Old 06-08-2016, 11:17 PM #1
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Default Reticence on Biggins comments

On both occasions Biggins has talked about bisexuality in bedroom to Renee et al, Frankie, a fellow gay man has been present in the background applying blusher, listening. Not once did he chip in and castigate Biggins. In fact during the first conversation ie "Bisexuals are just trendy and are the worst gays", he could be seen nodding. He was not appalled and shocked, which indicates to me that Biggins views are shared probably with many gay men in UK and US, young and old and are hardly some abhorrent view shared by just Biggins and two gay guys.
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on BBUS, Frankie declared that Lesbians choose to be Lesbians 'later in life'. so i wouldn't be surprised.
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On both occasions Biggins has talked about bisexuality in bedroom to Renee et al, Frankie, a fellow gay man has been present in the background applying blusher, listening. Not once did he chip in and castigate Biggins. In fact during the first conversation ie "Bisexuals are just trendy and are the worst gays", he could be seen nodding. He was not appalled and shocked, which indicates to me that Biggins views are shared probably with many gay men in UK and US, young and old and are hardly some abhorrent view shared by just Biggins and two gay guys.
I have been saying this kind of thing on here for years.

When Winston was castigated for saying he didn't believe in gay adoption, I knew that a huge proportion of the country agree with him.

They want to police opinions.
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Exactly. The fine nuances of what can be said and what can't be said at any given time are throwing us all into confusion. Just don't forget, get it wrong in public and the thought police will pounce, destroying your career, demanding you be prosecuted for a hate crime etc., etc.
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I have been saying this kind of thing on here for years.

When Winston was castigated for saying he didn't believe in gay adoption, I knew that a huge proportion of the country agree with him.

They want to police opinions.
Gay Adoption is always going to be a controversial subject, and tbf I can understand why even though I don't care who adopts the children as long as they're in a happy environment.

However Biggins Bisexual comments is outdated in the 21st century by most people, and in my personal opinion I don't understand why a gay man would have an issue with Bisexuality when they've suffered the same struggles.
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Gay Adoption is always going to be a controversial subject, and tbf I can understand why even though I don't care who adopts the children as long as they're in a happy environment.

However Biggins Bisexual comments is outdated in the 21st century by most people, and in my personal opinion I don't understand why a gay man would have an issue with Bisexuality when they've suffered the same struggles.

Disagree about Biggins bisexual comments being outdated. When you go beyond the LGBT /SJW community his comments are very popular and prevalent. A lot of people, especially women believe Bi men are mainly responsible for introducing STI and STDs to heterosexual women. Young females often cite it as one main reasons why the vast majority of straight women, if not all would never date/ sleep with a Bi guy. Even bi women generally date straight men from what I can see.

The other reasons for straight women mainly rejecting relations with bi guys being a lot of women regard these self proclaimed bi guys as being totally gay and other women regarding any man who has sexual contact or desire for a man as being inferior and unmasculine compared to straight men. These women may help fight for LGBT marriage equality, support LGBT campaigns, but they would never be anything other than friends with a bi guy.
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I have been saying this kind of thing on here for years.

When Winston was castigated for saying he didn't believe in gay adoption, I knew that a huge proportion of the country agree with him.

They want to police opinions.
I wholly agree with you about Winston ... He had his beliefs and they came from his faith that he lives his life by..... Winston had an opinion but did not blame gay men for the existence of child abuse. Biggins DID blame bisexuals for AIDS, it wasn't just an opinion it was an accusation ...I totally think that he was wrong even if I understand his reasons.
Replace the word Bisexual with the word Black or English or Jew or American or Muslim and then imagine the reaction.

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Or Frankie might have the ability to tune out when a conversation is going on around him, I do
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Biggins or anybody else should be entitled to their opinions.If the public don't like them then they vote them out.That is what the game is supposed to be about.
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Would love to hear Frankies opinions on Biggins comments, but he won't now he know Biggins fate.

I suspect had Grant, Lewis or Bear (is James straight?) said what Biggins had said Frankie would have got into a huge altercation just because a straight person Dares to speak negatively about LGBT. But as it's Biggins, at best Frankie is indifferent. Some LGBT only speak out as they have issues with straight people and just want to blame them, row then scream homophobia. Truth is Frankie probably doesn't give a rats arse about bisexuals and more than likely agrees with Biggins.

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Or maybe he just doesn't feel the need to butt into other people's conversations to put his point across.
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Or maybe he just doesn't feel the need to butt into other people's conversations to put his point across.
Apart from his sister and Broadway career, Frankie is well known for having views on LGBT issues. It's most unlike him for being so taciturn on gay issues. Also in USA version he loved to butt in about the most innocuous subject.

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