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Old 07-08-2016, 09:44 AM #1
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Default Biggins "joked that the showers were like gas chambers"

Exactly what Christopher Biggins said to Katie Wassiel that got him kicked out of the CBB house has been revealed.


In last night's show, we saw Biggins get the boot for making 'numerous offensive comments' but, to the outrage of viewers, editors did NOT show all of the remarks, some of which were almost a week old.

In one chat that was shown, Biggins discussed the gay community and bisexuals in particular.

Afterwards, Big Brother spoke to Biggins and brought up past comments that he had made - but did NOT air - on MONDAY night to fellow housemate Katie regarding the Jewish community.

Big Brother used the chats as examples of offensive language that would not be tolerated in the house.

As a result, Big Brother told Biggins he would be removed immediately and had to leave there and then via the Diary Room door.



Biggins told Big Brother in response: "I am very sorry and I am very sad."

Now The Sun newspaper reports (via the Daily Mirror) that Biggins had 'joked' with Katie, who is Jewish, by comparing the showers of the house to Nazi gas chambers.

As the celebs queued up to use the shower in the morning, Biggins allegedly said to The X Factor singer: "You had better be careful or they will put you in a shower or take you to a room!"

Katie is said to have been left in tears by the remark, although of course we've no official confirmation as the footage has not been aired.

"I am mortified by what has happened. Most of my friends are in fact Jewish. I apologise," Biggins told The Sun on Sunday newspaper in an interview today. “I love Jewish people. Listen my best friend is Lesley Joseph and you don’t get more Jewish than that.

“I have lots of bisexual friends and I am not in nay way a bigoted person. I am 67 and I love everybody. I live in Hackney and have a lot of black neighbours who are fantastic.”

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Exactly what Christopher Biggins said to Katie Wassiel that got him kicked out of the CBB house has been revealed.


In last night's show, we saw Biggins get the boot for making 'numerous offensive comments' but, to the outrage of viewers, editors did NOT show all of the remarks, some of which were almost a week old.

In one chat that was shown, Biggins discussed the gay community and bisexuals in particular.

Afterwards, Big Brother spoke to Biggins and brought up past comments that he had made - but did NOT air - on MONDAY night to fellow housemate Katie regarding the Jewish community.

Big Brother used the chats as examples of offensive language that would not be tolerated in the house.

As a result, Big Brother told Biggins he would be removed immediately and had to leave there and then via the Diary Room door.



Biggins told Big Brother in response: "I am very sorry and I am very sad."

Now The Sun newspaper reports (via the Daily Mirror) that Biggins had 'joked' with Katie, who is Jewish, by comparing the showers of the house to Nazi gas chambers.

As the celebs queued up to use the shower in the morning, Biggins allegedly said to The X Factor singer: "You had better be careful or they will put you in a shower or take you to a room!"

Katie is said to have been left in tears by the remark, although of course we've no official confirmation as the footage has not been aired.

"I am mortified by what has happened. Most of my friends are in fact Jewish. I apologise," Biggins told The Sun on Sunday newspaper in an interview today. “I love Jewish people. Listen my best friend is Lesley Joseph and you don’t get more Jewish than that.

“I have lots of bisexual friends and I am not in nay way a bigoted person. I am 67 and I love everybody. I live in Hackney and have a lot of black neighbours who are fantastic.”

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Whatever it is, whether it is prejudice from him or just joking or even sensationalism on his part.

He has been an avid fan of BB for years, has been on bbbots loads of times, seen and commented himself on how some comments bring down housemates.
he should have well been able to guard his tongue in there and know what to avoid.

Really very foolish of him indeed.
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HOW DARE HE bring Lesley Joseph into this
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So let us see the footage and vote to evict him.That is the name of the game.
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To be fair, we've heard a lot worse over the last 16 years. As distasteful as it was, it was clearly just a silly joke
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okay, it was just a silly joke, but i don't like jokes like this
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the man's like so many old people - they don't see how their comments and attitudes can cause offence and are often quite bewildered and upset when people call them out on it. the trouble is, he's only 67 - 10 years older than me - and his views are like those i'd hear aired by some 80 year old volunteer ladies in the shop i used to work in. 10 years is a blink of an eye, and yet he's like a dinosaur. a dinosaur that has, till now, been able to cover his generally unpleasant personality behind the big bright biggins persona.

just like most those older people who get called on their bigotry, he does the whole 'but i have friends who are a/b/c so i can't be...'. The thing is, the kind of jokes he might be able to crack with leslie joseph and not offend aren't necessarily going to be taken the same way by others who don't know him or who are prepared to ignore his off-colour remarks for the sake of showbiz luvviness.

he's a bigot & a liability on the show, though he's in good company with that latter observation.
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it also annoyed me how he slipped in that katie was 'clearly a young girl with issues' as some sort of excuse about her reaction to his clumsy, outdated humour - blaming her is not an action of a man sorry for the effect of his words, it's a shifting of the blame from himself to her.
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To be fair, we've heard a lot worse over the last 16 years. As distasteful as it was, it was clearly just a silly joke
Indeed, if there was malicious intent I could understand the removal, We can look forward to Geordie Shore/Towie types in future they will be the only one willing to do the show
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Indeed, if there was malicious intent I could understand the removal, We can look forward to Geordie Shore/Towie types in future they will be the only one willing to do the show
someone can do a whole lot of damage without deliberate malicious intent, and if anything the show has bent over backwards keeping the worst of his gaffes off air. it's the cumulative effect of his continued remarks they have had to address.
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There's been plenty of controversial comedians. CH5 just work with the tabloids to create a bit of controversy.
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someone can do a whole lot of damage without deliberate malicious intent, and if anything the show has bent over backwards keeping the worst of his gaffes off air. it's the cumulative effect of his continued remarks they have had to address.

Isn't this what BB is meant to do, test mental strength, I doubt Katie was that bothered really, she seems to be very fragile mentally in there, even nominating Bear reduced her to tears for some unknown reason, they should have shown the footage, then put him up for eviction, they had ample opportunity to put him straight up with all his nomination talk.
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Indeed, if there was malicious intent I could understand the removal, We can look forward to Geordie Shore/Towie types in future they will be the only one willing to do the show
I agree Cherie, the only thing we are going to get in future are Bear/Marnie/ Lewis types
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Isn't this what BB is meant to do, test mental strength, I doubt Katie was that bothered really, she seems to be very fragile mentally in there, even nominating Bear reduced her to tears for some unknown reason, they should have shown the footage, then put him up for eviction, they had ample opportunity to put him straight up with all his nomination talk.
there in lies the problem, because if you left him in, you would get groups forming for and against his attitude where his attitude is not up for discussion, he is a bigot. The issue is not about free speech but allowing someone in a privileged position to put his bigoted views across unchallenged and without balance
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there in lies the problem, because if you left him in, you would get groups forming for and against his attitude where his attitude is not up for discussion, he is a bigot. The issue is not about free speech but allowing someone in a privileged position to put his bigoted views across unchallenged and without balance
I'm pretty sure it will emerge James or others questioned him, but it's been cut in favour of Bear's tonsil tennis :unimpressed:
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Indeed, if there was malicious intent I could understand the removal, We can look forward to Geordie Shore/Towie types in future they will be the only one willing to do the show

Agreed. If that is all he said, then it seems there was no malicious intent from Biggins. It was a joke (albeit a tasteless one about the sensitive and upsetting subject of death camps).

It wasn't a joke aimed at the jewish community, it wasn't even a joke ABOUT the jewish community, it was a joke aimed at Big Brother itself, by comparing them/the house/the regime of the show to that of a death camp.

Also Biggins didn't specify he was talking about Nazi-German Camps. Death camps have happened all over the world, not just in Nazi Germany.

Nor did he mention jewish people. Not only jewish people were killed in Nazi death camps but many people of various races, religions, sexuality and beliefs including homosexuals, intellectuals and artists - people/communities who Biggins himself identifies with i'm sure.

His joke didn't target any one group of people, his joke targeted Big Brother themselves. He used a tasteless comparison about a sensitive subject, but his joke was certainly 'anti-regime' and not 'anti-community'..

And it's not anything new to make jokes about death camps/nazis/world war 2. It's been happening ever since on a mainstream level. Think how successful 'The Producers' is as a film and a Broadway musical, it's full of nazi jokes. And what about sit-coms such as Allo Allo?

Do we all now want to feel we can no longer make jokes/comments about world war 2 (or other upsetting subjects) without fear of 'punishment'? Ironically, isn't that what happened during world war 2?

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It wasn't a joke, there's a fine line between what's a joke and what's offensive
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He 'joked'??
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To be fare to big brother this was just one of the reasons he was kicked out. What I got from the convo was that he has said this earlier and they spoke to him about it but the anti bisexual stuff he said afterwards have them no option but to remove.
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Sorry. but where does he mention jews, nazis or the holocaust?
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As a Jewish woman I'd like to say to Katie... get a ****ing grip. Worry about the anti-Semitism in the Labour party and stop bursting into tears over ridiculous comments clearly meant in jest. If she was upset enough to be upset by a comment like that then she's clearly led a very sheltered life.
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