[Robodog]

BOTS was well uncomfortable to watch last night.

Denise W and Matt R spent the 1st half of the show saying how bad Heavy D is for upsetting and goading people.

Then they spent the 2nd half of the show upsetting and goading Heavy D themselves! What total hypocrites. That's like them shouting "I HATE PEOPLE WHO TALK LOUDLY"

Worse still is Matt calling Heavy D a 'twat' and a 'bell end'. That's the sneering, superior side of Matt that i don't like at all. Heavy is annoying don't get me wrong, but he hadn't said a bad word to Matt. He didn't even respond to Matt's insults afterwards.

Heavy is annoying on purpose we all know, but Matt took it to another nasty level there, just like Lewis does.

I mean, Lewis had only just got his warning for squaring up to Heavy D AGAIN, throwing a drink in his face and calling him a 'fat pussy'. No one on BOTS discussed that level of genuine aggression and abuse (fat shaming) from Lewis. It's far worse than anything Heavy has said or done in that house and yet the crowd cheer Lewis!

Also Emma's interview didn't discuss the way Lewis had treated Heavy D. Not just last night with the drink throwing/fat shaming, but Lewis has been nasty to him all series (making him beg for a half drunk glass of stolen wine etc). Emma seemed to put it all on Heavy D without seeing his side at all. It was her most obviously biased interview yet.

Yes Heavy is annoying etc and i am not a fan of his. But i watch BB from an objective point of view, not choosing my favourite HMs but i look at their behaviour on a case by case basis. Heavy has definitely been annoying but he has been on the receiving end of some very deliberate spiteful and intimidating behaviour from Lewis (and from Saira) this series. Then he goes on BOTS and gets called a 'twat' and 'bell end' by the sneering Matt Richardson.

Heavy is annoying yes, but no HM deserves to be intimidated and insulted like that. Especially from BOTS panellists. And that type of intimidation/abuse from definitely does not deserve crowd cheers and support like it had last night.

[Paula D]

I agree he was bullied and intimidated alright but he brought a lot of it on himself. Try to think how hard it would be to have the laugh right in your ear?? Lewis was in the wrong to react the way he did but any man would eventually react to that sort of goading.

Heavy D is older than all the young housemates too and should know better. Like seriously saying that he threw the food all over the place because Bear did it and got away with it? That's like something one of your 5 year old kids would say.

[south12345]

I think Matt and Denise were only saying what a vast majority of people were thinking....

[Liam-]

Denise and Matt were appalling, I didn't expect anything different from either of them.

[Vanessa]

Heavy D is too soft. Bear would rip this lot to shreds!

[Cherie]

Not watched this yet just saw Denise baring her fangs at the beginning, I guess now she has returned to the panel she will be a shoe in for all stars

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I agree he was bullied and intimidated alright but he brought a lot of it on himself. Try to think how hard it would be to have the laugh right in your ear?? Lewis was in the wrong to react the way he did but any man would eventually react to that sort of goading.

Heavy D is older than all the young housemates too and should know better. Like seriously saying that he threw the food all over the place because Bear did it and got away with it? That's like something one of your 5 year old kids would say.

I agree. He is like a hyper-active toddler the way he threw the food and the general way he annoys people. He's not spiteful, personal or hateful in the way that Lewis has been to him. Nor in the way that Matt insulted him last night.

Heavy D seems to be an easy target for spiteful people.

[hot2go]

[QUOTE=south12345;8922646]I think Matt and Denise were only saying what a vast majority of people were thinking....[/QUOTE

Heavy does what Bear does only Heavy isn't intelligent so it doesn't work, even for people like me who like it when Bear does it....
Personally I can't stand Heavy D personality, I would cross the street to avoid someone like him...the sheer volume alone is enough...and that retarded Boom thing for me is contemptable....
I agreed with Denise Welch about Heavys total disrespect for Grant and James as they waited nervously for eviction results....I never excused anything he did again after that either.
But generally I think his treatment last nigh was totally one sided by everyone except Carol McGiffin....yes I don't like him but I agree with other posts on here, Lewis played just as bigger part in their fights.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Heavy D is too soft. Bear would rip this lot to shreds!

Bear would have instantly picked up on the fact Carol is his fan and he would have made her laugh and that would have diffused the barrage of abuse from the others ...Bear would also work the BoTS audience a treat....and would know how to play Rylan....Bear would have owned that show last night, no way he would have been a victim to it....but Bear is not Heavy D....he is funny, witty, sharp and more intelligent than Heavy.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Bear would have instantly picked up on the fact Carol is his fan and he would have made her laugh and that would have diffused the barrage of abuse from the others ...Bear would also work the BoTS audience a treat....and would know how to play Rylan....Bear would have owned that show last night, no way he would have been a victim to it....but Bear is not Heavy D....he is funny, witty, sharp and more intelligent than Heavy.

Yes, he knows how to turn on the charm with the ladies

[Cal.]

I was shocked with what Matt was saying to Heavy D I didn't think he was like that at all.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Bear would have instantly picked up on the fact Carol is his fan and he would have made her laugh and that would have diffused the barrage of abuse from the others ...Bear would also work the BoTS audience a treat....and would know how to play Rylan....Bear would have owned that show last night, no way he would have been a victim to it....but Bear is not Heavy D....he is funny, witty, sharp and more intelligent than Heavy.

And this is why Denise and Matt tore into him because they knew he wouldn't be able to beat them, typical bullies, Heavy was loud and annoying yes but that's his character, he never threatened anyone physically or verbally, his boxing motion towards Lewis was panto , I bet Denise would be kissing Lewis's butt if he was evicted, she is just a witch

[reece(:]

Denise scalped

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, he knows how to turn on the charm with the ladies

Not just the ladies ....he's got charisma and like you say, knows how to charm...hard for some to agree I know, but it's true....I just find him funny, it's based solely on that really. I think he's a great housemate.
And how ironic that the Americans have worked him out and yet a lot the Brits in there haven't....just proves that Bear is international Now I AM taking the piss

[Ian Coke]

It's all a laugh, according to Colin. But I'm not sure any of us would like to be on the receiving end of any of his barely articulate violent rants. Glad he's gone, and if it was up to me, he'd have been sectioned.

[sampvt]

Denise is just the same old tit flashing Trollope in a bad hair do. Matts the only person in the world that thinks he's funny and carol has thee most annoying voice and face I've ever seen. On top of all that rylan couldn't keep control and heavy wS the only one left with dignity.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Not just the ladies ....he's got charisma and like you say, knows how to charm...hard for some to agree I know, but it's true....I just find him funny, it's based solely on that really. I think he's a great housemate.
And how ironic that the Americans have worked him out and yet a lot the Brits in there haven't....just proves that Bear is international Now I AM taking the piss

I think he's brilliant. Most of the others are always so serious! He's just having a laugh

[tanussa]

I totally agreed with denise & matt on everything they said & it was totally water off a ducks back with heavy D. it didnt bully him or upset him, he just carried on being loud over the top of everyone, what a thoroughly annoying human being he is. re the fall out with lewis, they may have all been sat together outside but lewis & marnie conversation was between each other, it was'nt lewis talkin abt himself (atleast not on that occasion) & heavy D butted in & was extremely loud & rude & him ge tting water thrown over him was well deserved. he was lucky that was all he got. so pleased hes gone. what a loud obnoxious person he is

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Denise and Matt were appalling, I didn't expect anything different from either of them.

this

it was a disgusting attack

[empire]

heavy d should never of went on bigbrother, denise was a nasty woman, she would not stop sexually harassing micheal madsen, and big brother did not tell her to stop, if micheal had done a reservoir dogs interrogation on her, bigbrother would of tried to stop him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by empire

heavy d should never of went on bigbrother, denise was a nasty woman, she would not stop sexually harassing micheal madsen, and big brother did not tell her to stop, if micheal had done a reservoir dogs interrogation on her, bigbrother would of tried to stop him.

exactly she abused madsen and was allowed to by sexist producers...no one wonder we never get legends anymorer

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Denise is just the same old tit flashing Trollope in a bad hair do. Matts the only person in the world that thinks he's funny and carol has thee most annoying voice and face I've ever seen. On top of all that rylan couldn't keep control and heavy wS the only one left with dignity.

Carols screeching voice drive me nuts i can't stand her , please don't have her back on.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Denise is just the same old tit flashing Trollope in a bad hair do ... Matts the only person in the world that thinks he's funny ...

They were both vicious and unrelenting - it was dreadful to watch.

I can't understand Denise Squelch's appeal - she was appalling in CBB and didn't deserve to win.

[chuff me dizzy]

Denise the ex drunk ,is a right one to call anyone about their behaviour !! Thank God for Carole ,the only one with any decency amongst them

[y.winter]

The only good thing that ever came from Denise was Matt Healy and The 1975. Other than that, pathetic woman. Michael Madsen was right when he described her precisely as she is.