[sungrass]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Its also not an opinion its a fact

I wasnt replying to you. Anyway this is pathetic. Im off.

They had a row - big deal - its big brother. Sheesh.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Its a completely different dynamic

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong.

That is a genius observation and so bloody true...he's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't....you're right, people will twist any given situation to make him the bad guy, while at the same time turning a blind eye when other housemates bahave exactly the same as he does and sometimes a lot worse.
I think they all went in there to pull the rug out from their competitors but Bear just happened to better at it....I'm so glad I didn't back the wrong horse at the beginning when so many thought Biggins was gonna be the star of the show and I gave the unpopular opinion that I think he's rubbish.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But he's invaded peoples personal space,so I see no problem

...it's one rule for him and not for the others though Kaz....come on we all know by now it's ok if Bear does it

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong.

Tbf Vicky......it's often been the other way around.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Tbf Vicky......it's often been the other way around.

And that is just as ridiculous. Will never understand how people can't put aside their personal dislike/like of a certain housemate to see things clearer. On season is so weird.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It was also apparently mentioned on live feed by someone (I didnt watch this so going entirely on hearsay here) that BB had told him to do this if he felt threatened at any point. Can anyone who watched it comment on this please? Have only seen it mentioned on DS (and also in the post bobnot linked..which is what reminded me of this)

As that post says, it is a very odd thing for BB to suggest he does..and does kinda come off as them encouraging him to wind them up...

i don't know who, if anyone, told him to do that but he's been doing it from the early days of the series and - as i interpret it - it's him running with the whole 'hands up, don't shoot' meme that began in america and because of police shooting unarmed black civilians, even children. he uses it to wind them up, NOT becase he feels threatened.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Jan S

i don't know who, if anyone, told him to do that but he's been doing it from the early days of the series and - as i interpret it - it's him running with the whole 'hands up, don't shoot' meme that began in america and because of police shooting unarmed black civilians, even children. he uses it to wind them up, NOT becase he feels threatened.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Arms up is like fake cringing, saying 'don't hit me', or 'you're bullying me' after having been extremely provocative, aggressive, or even physical with the actual 'victim'.

It's deflective - often done to disarm, to inhibit and to provoke even more whilst faking being in 'sub' mode.

It's rather common and ordinary, nasty fourteen year old behaviour. Bear seems stuck in some nasty dysfunctional pubescent timewarp.

master of reality tv - nos what actions to do to provoke and play the victim - bore off.

he better not win tonight - will be so disappointed.

[coffee]

Doesn't seem aggressive to me. Seems he was purposely trying to pretend to be the victim (in a joking way) to wind Aubrey up even more. Very lad of him lol