[Maru]

Clinton expresses regret for saying 'half' of Trump supporters are 'deplorables'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politi...f-deplorables/

This got substantially more retweets than some of his others... her strategy should be to get his votes, not piss off his base

Hillary Clinton blames cough on 'Trump allergy'

Youtube video

"*cough cough cough* Everytime I think about Trump, I get allergic."

Hillary Clinton is another Colin Powell victim
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.e1417830cfcf

It's such a messy election. It's no wonder people are so apathetic. It's more like high school than a general election.

She had an opportunity to take the moral high ground but she is getting greedy and has gone too negative. It will raise red flags for those who had questions about her personality and who are still trying to decide between the two... at least with Trump, WYSIWYG, sad to say...

He responds strongly to criticism and though we know it's because he has a fragile ego, it does come off better than her faux blowing off the media criticism (and by connection, the public) which is not doing her image any favors. She acts like somebody who is above giving a **** which is seriously bad for her image. At least with Trump, though we know it's clearly pandering, he's making an effort to be charming and likable to various demographics... what the media has to say about it doesn't matter. If he talks with the public better then it can be subjectively said that Trump apparently has more emotional intelligence than Hillary Clinton and therefore likes the people more (and is potentially more American/patriotic)... despite his crap views, that will win him votes.

I think the debates will likely have a bigger role in helping people decide who to vote for than previous elections. They're both so dire and both have the potential to divide the nation further which is not going to make it an easy choice... but maybe the debates will help

[MB.]

Only half?

[Shaun]

Generous tbh

[Mystic Mock]

At least it's not just the UK out of the civilised countries suffering with bad candidates across the board.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Mistake. She is getting worse.

[joeysteele]

Well at least she only said half, she didn't just generalise and seemingly include them all.

In my view, she has a point.

[Kyle]

As much as she may or may not be right belittling people for their political ideologies is only going to entrench them further.

[Johnnyuk123]

More votes for Trump.

[Pete.]

She didn't lie

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pete.

She didn't lie

I see it as a sort of 'divide and conquer' thing by her.

It may, yet prove to have been a clever move on her sides part,even if it just gets some people questioning why they are at present in support of Trump.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Kyle

As much as she may or may not be right belittling people for their political ideologies is only going to entrench them further.

Exactly. I don't have to agree with everything Trump says, but I can understand some of people's base reasons for voting for him, even if some of it is ignorant. She doesn't get to pick and choose which part of the nation she wants to represent when she is president... she would representing us all and she would have a very important job of getting different sides on the same page.

If this is how she is going to act around the groups she doesn't agree with, then what would be the point of electing her? It would just be another 4-8 years of what we've already had for a long time, a divisive atmosphere and ****ty leadership. She's lost the plot.

[GiRTh]

HRC showing this kind of snobbery will not endear her to the people who cant decide.

[lostalex]

It's all silly. Trump is not a real candidate. Hillary is already President in my mind.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's all silly. Trump is not a real candidate. Hillary is already President in my mind.

I really hope she is lostalex,

[bitontheslide]

i think hilary made a big mistake. Its not dissimilar to our political parties here calling UKIP racists, and look how that turned out. America is a free country, Trump is a genuine endorsed candidate. Like him or hate him, people are entitled to have a different political view to Hilary without being insulted. She may just have lost the election.

[Tom4784]

I see no lies tbh.

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I see it as a sort of 'divide and conquer' thing by her.

It may, yet prove to have been a clever move on her sides part,even if it just gets some people questioning why they are at present in support of Trump.

Doubt it. Just look at Brexit, Leave voters were called racist, xenophobic, isolationist - pretty much every name under the sun by the media and the Remain side - and that didn't work.

[Jack_]

She isn't really wrong but you have to be very careful about making remarks like these if you're in politics, it doesn't exactly endear you to the electorate you're trying to win over.

Certain sections of the left have a problem with this in the UK too with regards to UKIP voters, Brexiter's, those concerned with immigration. There is of course an element of truth to remarks and sentiments like these but what's happening with Trump isn't too dissimilar to what happened in Britain. When people feel marginalised and disillusioned, they will turn to fringe parties, causes and people as an outlet to express their concern - it's happening all over Europe too and it's why we're seeing the rise of both the far right and far left.

Unfortunately on both sides of the Atlantic people's very real and very valid fears and concerns are being addressed with the wrong answers - nationalism, segregation, prejudice etc etc. What needs to happen is these people need to be listened to and their questions need to be given the actual right answers. Now this is always going to be difficult with an overwhelmingly right leaning media but insulting huge swathes of disenfranchised people seeks only to push them away further. We and she cannot afford to be doing this at such a hostile and critical time in both US and British politics.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Jack_

She isn't really wrong but you have to be very careful about making remarks like these if you're in politics, it doesn't exactly endear you to the electorate you're trying to win over.

Certain sections of the left have a problem with this in the UK too with regards to UKIP voters, Brexiter's, those concerned with immigration. There is of course an element of truth to remarks and sentiments like these but what's happening with Trump isn't too dissimilar to what happened in Britain. When people feel marginalised and disillusioned, they will turn to fringe parties, causes and people as an outlet to express their concern - it's happening all over Europe too and it's why we're seeing the rise of both the far right and far left.

Unfortunately on both sides of the Atlantic people's very real and very valid fears and concerns are being addressed with the wrong answers - nationalism, segregation, prejudice etc etc. What needs to happen is these people need to be listened to and their questions need to be given the actual right answers. Now this is always going to be difficult with an overwhelmingly right leaning media but insulting huge swathes of disenfranchised people seeks only to push them away further. We and she cannot afford to be doing this at such a hostile and critical time in both US and British politics.

Fat chance. Too many lowlifes that are taking advantage of that fear and vitriol to win votes/donations. It sucks for the rest of us, but it's a political gravy train.


People are quick to point out Trump as the villain, but what some fail in seeing is that the reason Trump was even publicly vetted in the first place is because the standards for being a politician has been lowered. Now anyone with a movement and a microphone can get a platform on the media/political stage. Just need lots of a cash or to be a hungry wannabe politician willing to say anything to get media exposure in order to capitalize on it and who also is desperate enough to pander to these fringe groups to get into office...

Hillary's message may be cleaner, but she has done just as much pandering to her own intolerant groups who are prone to racism and violence (see: BLM). The only difference is, Hillary is riding on top of a liberal wave that has been undulating for some time now. The media is predominantly liberal leaning here so they are going to paint her as the good guy. We know where that's headed. Trump's running against the grain of that on so many levels, but that's also why he is so freaking popular...

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Maru

[B]

bye @ this

[Ammi]

...she's just getting involved in the name-calling/generalising that he has so again, as bad as each other and just two shockingly awful potential Presidents...attack his politics..(does he have any...?..)..don't attack the concerns/fears of the people which may have caused them to support him...

[arista]

"you have to be very careful about making remarks like these if you're in politics, it doesn't exactly endear you to the electorate you're trying to win over. "

Bang On Right Jack

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

She isn't really wrong but you have to be very careful about making remarks like these if you're in politics, it doesn't exactly endear you to the electorate you're trying to win over.

Certain sections of the left have a problem with this in the UK too with regards to UKIP voters, Brexiter's, those concerned with immigration. There is of course an element of truth to remarks and sentiments like these but what's happening with Trump isn't too dissimilar to what happened in Britain. When people feel marginalised and disillusioned, they will turn to fringe parties, causes and people as an outlet to express their concern - it's happening all over Europe too and it's why we're seeing the rise of both the far right and far left.

Unfortunately on both sides of the Atlantic people's very real and very valid fears and concerns are being addressed with the wrong answers - nationalism, segregation, prejudice etc etc. What needs to happen is these people need to be listened to and their questions need to be given the actual right answers. Now this is always going to be difficult with an overwhelmingly right leaning media but insulting huge swathes of disenfranchised people seeks only to push them away further. We and she cannot afford to be doing this at such a hostile and critical time in both US and British politics.

You do have to be careful I agree Jack_ and I agree with all your post.

I would only say she doesn't want to win those people over she has called 'deplorables'.

They are probably voters she would never ever get anyway.

My Aunt who lives in Los Angeles, she is a supporter of hers however, i her view she sees this election won for her,
The belief is, and of course it can go wrong, is she has the States she needs to win the electoral college votes needed.

For me a Trump win in the States should be unthinkable, she may take a hit for these comments or it may change nothing.

I agree she does need to watch carefully what she allows herself to say in the run up to this election,I agree with you totally, especially as to voters.

She would probably be right in thinking this is just about won for her and now spend the time concentrating on building up and re-inforcing that support she has,rather than lowering herself to Trumps standards.
She doesn't need to do that, he looks bad with his personal attacks on her, appear to ride above those attacks and concentrate on issues will bring her likely better rewards.

[Johnnyuk123]

What Americans really think about Hillary Clinton.

Youtube video

[Livia]

Trump accusing SOMEONE ELSE of being rude! Jesus, you couldn't make it up.

I see no lies in Hilary's comment.