[nodisharmony]

Sadly, the Hate for Jade Goody continues on.

It is typical how people seem to laugh at stories which I am about to tell. But this is the facts regarding Jade Goody's situtation.

HER SITUATION IS REAL AND UNJUST BEYOND BELIEF.

Try to put things in perspective!

Compare Jade Goody to someone who mugs an old lady or burgled your house.

THEY WOULD GET A BETTER DEAL.

Anyway, here is this very SAD story!!!
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GOODY RIDDANCE (Daily Star)
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DESPERATE driver Jay goodfield wants to get rid of his registration plate - because everyone thinks he is loudmouth Jade Goody

Since he bought the J6 OODY plate for £250 three years ago, Jade, 25, has become a public hate figure over the Big Brother race row

MISERY
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Now builder, Jay, 20 - known as, "Goody" to his mates - says his life is being made a misery by angry drivers mistaking him for her.

Passers-by have started hurling abuse, drivers keep cutting him up and he fears his car could be vandalised. Fed up Jay, from Bristol, said: "It has turned into a nightmare.

"I used to get girls following my car thinking I was her boyfriend. Sometimes I'd play along with it, put my hood up and wear some sunglasses and it would be a good laugh.

"Now people swear at me, give me dirty looks and I've even been threatened by gangs of kids"

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WELL, What do you think??
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When I kept saying that Jade Goody's behavior on the previous two reality shows has nothing to do with what happened in January's, "Celebrity Big Brother", then you must say I am RIGHT.

Jade Goody has been hated, because of the way the show has been edited, to make Jade Goody look really nasty and a racist and a terrile bully.

The people who disliked her before, today, Hate her.

Then, what you have, is, people that did like her before, Hate her today!

Then you have people who like her still and also, see how she has been set up. Then, you find that those people are too scared to stand up for Jade Goody. Their friends may not like you, because you are supporting a Racist Bully who is not a model or anything else special.

This is what people feel.

This Number-Plate incident says it all.

This man is scared to keep this number-plate on his car. He doesn't want his car damaged or, end up being assaulted or anything else happening to him.

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I have mentioned today, on the, (The answer to Jade Goody's problem) topic, that Jade Goody would feel worried about being approached by someone with an Asian or Indian coloured skin.

One member couldn't understand that?

WELL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW?

[GiRTh]

Where's the source for this article?

I like the fact that people now cut him up. He couldn't have done much driving if he thinks people are now cutting him up because of his number plate. Hilarious.

You're, again, mentioning how the show was edited. Do you think Jade was stiched up by the editors as people on this forum claim that the oxo argument went even further than was shown on TV.

As I said on another thread you need to start backing up your claims.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody has been hated, because of the way the show has been edited, to make Jade Goody look really nasty and a racist and a terrile bully.

So it's all purely down to the editing now is it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT
Where's the source for this article?

I like the fact that people now cut him up. He couldn't have done much driving if he thinks people are now cutting him up because of his number plate. Hilarious.

You're, again, mentioning how the show was edited. Do you think Jade was stiched up by the editors as people on this forum claim that the oxo argument went even further than was shown on TV.

It is on (page 17) of today's Daily Star (Monday 5th March)


A typical Jade-Hate situation!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

It is on (page 17) of today's Daily Star (Monday 5th March)


A typical Jade-Hate situation!!

The Star!!!!!

I'm currently watching your credibility fly out of the window. Look, there it goes!!!!!

[Sophii3x]

I really don't blame the guy. If I had that number plate and had to put up with what he has to put up with because of some idiot on the telly. I would get rid of it.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

So it's all purely down to the editing now is it?

All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited. But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited. But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

I'm sick of the poor editing defence and it inflames me even more when it's used. I personally think that a bad edit is so easy to spot that it really has become a tiresome excuse.

In the begining Jade looked quite good, so when did you think that the clever editing started?

Again, in your post you've made a number of claims that you need to back up.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

The Star!!!!!

I'm currently watching your credibility fly out of the window. Look, there it goes!!!!!

The Daily Star is a News Paper and the story is real.

Regarding your (credibility) comment?

I am at a loss to understand that!

I am just pointing out, how this is how far people's dislike of Jade Goody has become. A murderer could walk down the street and get treated better.

Jade Goody is having to do what she is doing.

Also, this reality show, Big Brother have a lot to thank Jade Goody for.

Just look at the 2 million+ more ratings they received by letting more people watch this January's show.

Celebrity Big Brother has been nominated for a BAFTA telly gong.

JADE & SHILPA WILL BE MENTIONED, OF COURSE!!

And who will the viewers frown at!!

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
All Big Brother shows have to be edited.

It is impossible to fit 24 hours into 1 hour, without editing.

I am sure we are all intelligent enough to know this fact.

The argument between Jade Goody & Shilpa wasn't edited.

How do you know that?

But there is absolutely nothing racial in that argument.

Do you agree with me there?

As I have stated previously, I personally feel that there was nothing racial in it, but most people think differently.

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If Shilpa Shetty was talking about her opinions of people she knows, other actresses, etc.. The show will consider bird whistling that out.

During a discussion, there may have been some patronising or other things said, which Jade Goody could construe as being nasty.

Such as?

She would walk out of the room, start talking to Jo & Danielle and have that (angry-Jade) head on.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT MADE JADE & THE GIRLS LOSE IT WITH SHILPA.

We only know, what we see.

Precisely!

What we see is, what the editors choose us to see.

GET THE PICTURE?

And you know different do you? The trouble is, I cannot take you seriously unless I know that you do actually know facts that the rest of us don't. GET THE PICTURE?

Let me guess, you don't give a ***

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

The Daily Star is a News Paper and the story is real.

Again, how do you know the story is real. BACK UP YOU CLAIM.

Regarding your (credibility) comment?

I am at a loss to understand that!

I am just pointing out, how this is how far people's dislike of Jade Goody has become. A murderer could walk down the street and get treated better.

I very much doubt that but keep thinking that if you honestly feel it's true.

Jade Goody is having to do what she is doing.

Of course she has to do it to save her career. There's plenty more money for her to earn from being stupid.

Also, this reality show, Big Brother have a lot to thank Jade Goody for.

True, but lets look at the ethical value of recent BB's.

Just look at the 2 million+ more ratings they received by letting more people watch this January's show.

Celebrity Big Brother has been nominated for a BAFTA telly gong.

JADE & SHILPA WILL BE MENTIONED, OF COURSE!!

And who will the viewers frown at!!

The viewers will frown at Jade because she had to leave to no crowd and a very fake set up of an interview. Did you not see it?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

I'm sick of the poor editing defence and it inflames me even more when it's used. I personally think that a bad edit is so easy to spot that it really has become a tiresome excuse.

In the begining Jade looked quite good, so when did you think that the clever editing started?

Again, in your post you've made a number of claims that you need to back up.

Point them out to me!

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Regarding the editing and when it started. "Who Knows?"

However, as Endemol won't hand over the uncut tapes without a court order, we can't really state facts.

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=27538

Jade Goody has only speculation on the Jade-Haters side.

We can only speculate that Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara and Danielle Lloyd because she is an Indian woman

The OXO cube incident and the Chicken, cannot be the only reason for all three of them to fall out.

Nobody's that stupid!

I can only defend, what you are coming out with.

Stating that Jade Goody did not like Shilpa, because she was jealous and racist too.

Many nasty comments are being said about Jade Goody, but, you have to come up with evidence.

You have to prove it and make your case. Jade Goody has been looked upon, like this. As she has come over agressive on the two previous reality shows. It is like, (cry wolf) I would admit that Jade Goody is well aware that Big Brother shows make their money, by arguments and serious clashes in personality.

Maybe, she knows how to play the game?

But, she is not going to just start on Shilpa Shetty, unless there is a real reason.

If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

Are you talking about the Jodie Marsh episode?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

Again, how do you know the story is real. BACK UP YOU CLAIM.

I very much doubt that but keep thinking that if you honestly feel it's true.

Of course she has to do it to save her career. There's plenty more money for her to earn from being stupid.

True, but lets look at the ethical value of recent BB's.

The viewers will frown at Jade because she had to leave to no crowd and a very fake set up of an interview. Did you not see it?

If you doubt that the Daily Star story is false, you are, of course at liberty to e-mail them and accuse them that it is a lie.

Just like every story that comes out in the newspapers. Some are true and the others ???

But I am certainly believing this, as it is more believable. OKAY..
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Jade Goody is NOT doing this for her career!


She has always behaved, exactly like you see her on loads of shows. Check this link:-
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1197669/
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Ethics?? what are you on about? Please be more specific.

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I saw all of Davina's interview and every part of the show, except for all the (E4) live footage, or shall I say, "almost live"!

The choice of moving the crowds, was NOT Jade Goody's choice, it was the choice of the show.

The interview with Davina was very real.

Do you doubt "Davina" or the "Big Brother" shows conduct??

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Point them out to me!

Yau made a comment about Jade having her hate-head on.

Jade Goody has only speculation on the Jade-Haters side.

We can only speculate that Jade Goody and Jo O'Meara and Danielle Lloyd because she is an Indian woman

The OXO cube incident and the Chicken, cannot be the only reason for all three of them to fall out.

Nobody's that stupid!

Jade is exactly that stupid. At the end of the day I, nor you, have put Jade in this position she's done it herself.

I can only defend, what you are coming out with.

Stating that Jade Goody did not like Shilpa, because she was jealous and racist too.

This makes no sense. I'm not aware of any post in which I've said that Jade was jealous or racist. I have said that some might find her comments racist. You don't need to be a racist to make racist comments, but when you do people have the right to ask if you're racist.

Many nasty comments are being said about Jade Goody, but, you have to come up with evidence.

Much of it is speculation but very believable speculation.

You have to prove it and make your case. Jade Goody has been looked upon, like this. As she has come over agressive on the two previous reality shows. It is like, (cry wolf) I would admit that Jade Goody is well aware that Big Brother shows make their money, by arguments and serious clashes in personality.

Maybe, she knows how to play the game?

But, she is not going to just start on Shilpa Shetty, unless there is a real reason.

Are you kidding. Remember Sophie in BB3.

If you want to attack a housemate, after they leave, because they have been bullying on a show. Then why is "Pete Burns" not joining Jade Goody on that action.

Probably becasue Pete Burns actions did not cause over 40,000 official complaints.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

If you doubt that the Daily Star story is false, you are, of course at liberty to e-mail them and accuse them that it is a lie.

Not really bothered bacause I don't read the Star. Personally, I think if you're going to quote from newspapers then the onus is on you to find more reputable sources.

Just like every story that comes out in the newspapers. Some are true and the others ???

But I am certainly believing this, as it is more believable. OKAY..

Believe whatever you want to believe, but in your case it seems to only be things that support your oft kilter view of the events in the house.

Jade Goody is NOT doing this for her career|

LOL. GOOD LORD!!!! Do you honestly believe that? I read a headline in one of the tabloid magazines that said Jade is prepared to stack shelve. Why is she not stacking shelves then? What do you think she is doing in India if it's not trying to save her career?

Ethics?? what are you on about? Please be more specific.

I'm actually agreeing with you. Recently BB ethics have been apalling

saw all of Davina's interview and every part of the show, except for all the (E4) live footage, or shall I say, "almost live"!

The choice of moving the crowds, was NOT Jade Goody's choice, it was the choice of the show.

The interview with Davina was very real.

Do you doubt "Davina" or the "Big Brother" shows conduct??

Absolutely. It was clear thtat Jade had been coached. Jades responses were completely out of character. Jade, as I see her, would have responded much like Jo did. ie claiming that they'd shown the worst bits and that they'd built the story out of proportion. Instead she was saying and doing all the right things. That interview stunk to high hell.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

Yau made a comment about Jade having her hate-head on.

Jade is exactly that stupid. At the end of the day I, nor you, have put Jade in this position she's done it herself.

This makes no sense. I'm not aware of any post in which I've said that Jade was jealous or racist. I have said that some might find her comments racist. You don't need to be a racist to make racist comments, but when you do people have the right to ask if you're racist.

Much of it is speculation but very believable speculation.

Are you kidding. Remember Sophie in BB3.

Probably becasue Pete Burns actions did not cause over 40,000 official complaints.

Okay, here's the facts and answers
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I said that Jade Goody can get her "Hate-Head" on, as, she can get very touchy and if someone has patronised her or lied or whatever, she will get angry and if Jo & Danielle are there, she will tell them what she thinks of that person.

I still feel that Jade Goody was very restraint!
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Jade can act stupid many times. But, there are some things that even Jade wouldn't do.

You can think what you like on that score!

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People can ask questions whether or not, Jade Goody is a racist person and also, whether words that were said by her on this show, were racist.

That is what Jade Goody has done.

My comments about you quoting, "Jealous" & "Racist" I shall take back.

I have quite a task on my hands and many questions to answer.

In many posts, those words get mentioned. So, I shall continually defend those accusations.

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Placing Jade Goody in this situation, by just people "speculating" is very dangerous.

It is better to be more cautious with that comment.

It could lead to legal stuff.

Evidence is more important than peoples speculation.

Michael Jackson proved himself in a court of law

Jade Goody is in a real mess and many people, (They know who they are!!) want this to just blow over.

I don't blame THEM
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Sophie was a joint affair, not just involving Jade Goody.

Check the evidence!

Plus, once again, there was editing. What brought all this on.
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Pete Burns was very obnoxious and bullying on that show.

But once again, We don't really know the man. He might be a nice guy? Ask "Pete Waterman" He knows him.

The complaints to the Big Brother show were justified!!

I agree with that. It was a disgusting situation to watch.

The way the show zoned in on this argument and the comments which were refered to as having, "Racial Overtones", were bad viewing, by people who don't condone what they heard and saw.

Many would be offended and that did happen.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

Not really bothered bacause I don't read the Star. Personally, I think if you're going to quote from newspapers then the onus is on you to find more reputable sources.

Believe whatever you want to believe, but in your case it seems to only be things that support your oft kilter view of the events in the house.

LOL. GOOD LORD!!!! Do you honestly believe that? I read a headline in one of the tabloid magazines that said Jade is prepared to stack shelve. Why is she not stacking shelves then? What do you think she is doing in India if it's not trying to save her career?

I'm actually agreeing with you. Recently BB ethics have been apalling

Absolutely. It was clear thtat Jade had been coached. Jades responses were completely out of character. Jade, as I see her, would have responded much like Jo did. ie claiming that they'd shown the worst bits and that they'd built the story out of proportion. Instead she was saying and doing all the right things. That interview stunk to high hell.

More truths and answers
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A am quoting a story of a builders number-plate.

Do I need your permission?

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I don't understand that (Text) talk, isn't that against the rules of the forum. Please be more clear?

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She is wanting to feel safe and also, have her children feel safe, that is why she is campaigning so much.

She used the term:- "Stacking Shelves", this was an answer to a question, if she was broke, she would do that job.

She isn't broke. She's worth a fortune. SO, she's not going to do any shelf stacking, SORRY!

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Jade Goody is more clever than you think!! She grasped the situation quickly and spoke the truth, which is what she mostly does.

She doesn't want to be hated, nor her children either.

This is very obvious and true.

Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.

Jade Goody swore on her childrens lives and I believe her.

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I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER NOW.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Placing Jade Goody in this situation, by just people "speculating" is very dangerous.

It is better to be more cautious with that comment.

It could lead to legal stuff.

Evidence is more important than peoples speculation.

Michael Jackson proved himself in a court of law

Jade Goody is in a real mess and many people, (They know who they are!!) want this to just blow over.

I don't blame THEM

I'll only deal with this bit as you seem to be in the main agreeing with me for most of your last post. Incidentally, I thought you were trying to convert me to your way of thinking? Your way of thinking is so out of the stratosphere that common sense had to prevail at some point.

What I was trying to say was that Jades PR team are one of the best in business so those of us who speculate on what their next move is honestly do feel that Jade has been set up by her own team to come acorss as a victim.

[Mrluvaluva]

Does my post at 12.17 not warrant a reply?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GRiT

I'll only deal with this bit as you seem to be in the main agreeing with me for most of your last post. Incidentally, I thought you were trying to convert me to your way of thinking? Your way of thinking is so out of the stratosphere that common sense had to prevail at some point.

What I was trying to say was that Jades PR team are one of the best in business so those of us who speculate on what their next move is honestly do feel that Jade has been set up by her own team to come acorss as a victim.

I wasn't trying to convert you.

I had already worked that out for myself, which is not difficult.

We agree to differ on many points of Jade Goody's situation.

I'll leave it at that!
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Jade Goody does have a great team of advisors, but, many of her advisors, in fact, ALL, will have families and friends.

If they tell their friends and family that their job is protecting and helping Jade Goody, it is not a pleasing thing to say.

They will do what they can for Jade and they will take her money too.


Sometimes there is a balance between the two.

They all take the money and in return do a 30% Help-Jade campaign which is NOT good enough.

This is what I am on about.

Better for it to blow over. The Advisors take their fee and Jade Goody just hides away and that is the end of that.

It is a terrible example of what can happen in this particular situation.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

More truths and answers
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A am quoting a story of a builders number-plate.

Do I need your permission?

Of course not but you claimed that I should send an e-mail to verify the story. No. You should pick a reputable source. Your story is from a paper that has no credibility. Nuff said. Dont blame me for pointing it out.

I don't understand that (Text) talk, isn't that against the rules of the forum. Please be more clear?

Good one!!!! I almost LMFAO

She is wanting to feel safe and also, have her children feel safe, that is why she is campaigning so much.

I still don't get how she does not feel safe. Particularly when on Matthew Wrights show she was talking about the support she'd got from the 'non white' community. Personally, and this will come as a huge shock to you, I think she's been lying in some of her interviews.

[She used the term:- "Stacking Shelves", this was an answer to a question, if she was broke, she would do that job.

She isn't broke. She's worth a fortune. SO, she's not going to do any shelf stacking, SORRY!

Quite smug aren't you and that is the reason why you've got such an uphill struggle to spread the Jade love. It's also the reason why people like me need to be convinced and you're failing to convince us.

Jade Goody is more clever than you think!! She grasped the situation quickly and spoke the truth, which is what she mostly does.

She doesn't want to be hated, nor her children either.

This is very obvious and true.

Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.

Jade Goody swore on her childrens lives and I believe her.

Believe what you want. Jade may have some good business smarts but she's just as dumb as I'm sure she is - anybody who wondrss why eskimos tears don't freeze, jeez!!!! I asked my 9 year old niece and she worked it out -She was told what to say, there's no question about it. She doesn't have the brains to say all the right things.

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[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Davina McCall is not going to say to anyone that Jade Goody was briefed beforehand, because she wasn't.

http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/

I quote:

1. "Jade Goody met with her PR and agent before being briefed on questions for her interview with BB host Davina McCall. Their TV chat was then filmed half an hour before it was screened."

2. "It has been alleged that Channel 4, in contradiction with their own rules, told Goody hours before her eviction that her behaviour within the house had damaged her 'girl next door' reputation. Channel 4 at first denied this was the case, but later statements imply that an intervention had occurred, but only to make contestants "realise that what they have said has been misconstrued in the house". The idea, a Channel 4 spokesman said, was to allow the housemates "to explain themselves" to their fellow inmates."

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by BAZG

If I didn't give a ****, then I would not be having this conversation with you, would I?

Sorry, I am busy replying and your post got missed.

This is my last reply until later on today
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To edit that argument between Shilpa and Jade would be a tricky job, without making it look obvious.

Davina said it wasn't edited, but anything is possible, I won't go there.

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I am glad that you don't think there was anything racial in that argument.

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I can't speculate what may have caused Jade Goody to react that way. But it makes sense that something was said during some edited out footage. But, that is not for me to state or speculate further


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I don't say that I know different and if you cannot admit that something may have been edited out, which may of sparked off or inflamed the situation, then I can't really continue to help you understand.

That is up to yourself to grasp and understand!

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You can hate Jade and debate her at the same time.

That is what I meant!

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
I don't understand that (Text) talk

PMSL!