[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

When I was in Texas last week I got talking to a Mexican man who has lived in the states all his life, he said he'd never experienced racism towards him until the last few weeks, that's the scary part, it seems like this is now some sort of validation for racist to crawl out of the woodwork, that's scary.

[Shaun]

Yeah his own refusal to condemn the actions of his supporters is a huge problem. And often overlooked by the same people who'll accuse Jeremy Corbyn of condoning antisemitism.

[Amy Jade]

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

His position is it should be a state's issue and not a federal one. He is pro-life though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yeah his own refusal to condemn the actions of his supporters is a huge problem. And often overlooked by the same people who'll accuse Jeremy Corbyn of condoning antisemitism.

..it's not just refusal to address and condemn..it's also the encouragement of in his campaign speeches in offering to pay legal fees to those who felt violence was appropriate.../go on then people, you have my blessing and I'll help in any way I can...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I feel sick for women in general he clearly has no respect for women, you can see that just watching him on the apprentice - under his rule won't abortion be banned too?

Same, this is what I mean about the world going backwards, I fear for my daughters generation tbh. If you have the leader of the "free world" being a sexist pig, then how is anything moving forward?

[T*]

Idk what to feel
No 'WW3' apparently and we're a bit safer but discrimination and misogyny still high and **** but... we still need to live our lives i guess
It just is ****ing bizarre to hear 'Reality TV star Donald Trump has been elected President'
All seems a bit Black Mirror

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by T*

Idk what to feel
No 'WW3' apparently and we're a bit safer but discrimination and misogyny still high and **** but... we still need to live our lives i guess
It just is ****ing bizarre to hear 'Reality TV star Donald Trump has been elected President'
All seems a bit Black Mirror

It really does

[joeysteele]

Oh dear, for me just a bit more evidence the World is really going mad, the harder,more heartless and extreme divisive tones seemingly attracting the support.

Having said that, Trumps victory speech was better than I expected but I won't be a hypocrite and say I am happy at this result.
For me this is a backward step by the USA and in fact a dangerous one too.

Just really glad I do not live there today.
Obviously let's see where he goes and what he really does now or is he also going to follow a different path now in power from what he advocated in his awful and really nasty campaign.
If the path he goes down is far away from most of what he said in his campaign then possibly things will not be so bad after all.

[LeatherTrumpet]

think back on who we have elected as leaders of the UK...


How many did we get right and were very good at their job?


Lets make a list...

[Niamh.]

Conor McGregor reacts to the Presidential results :

“I just could not give a bollocks, with all due respect, the whole thing is weird to me,” said McGregor. ” The public are just brainwashed into thinking something is going to happen with this one.

“I don’t think either of those two contenders, or whatever they are, have power in anything, anyway.”

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I only hope that Trump is so media-savvy and surrounded in the past 30 years by progressive attitudes that some of it will have rubbed off on him. I don't think I've seen anything directly homophobic from him in the campaign, but of course his Veep is a huge problem. That said, I don't think the LGBT are in danger. Women... yeah this is a kick in the teeth to them but he does seem at least apologetic of what he said and I'm not sure what else can come that'd increase his sexist reputation, so that's a positive I guess? good god at the idea of Melania being a first lady though...

Obviously the biggest worry with him is race relations, and standing aside and letting Russia do what they like. But then, the countries Russia seem to be quietly annexing seem 80% in favour of rejoining Russia anyway.

I don't think Trump being in power will be any more miserable than the deadlock in the houses that preceded him, however the Republicans having total control now (as I understand?) is worrying. I do hope he keeps his word and delivers jobs to those rural states that are desperate for them. I just don't really see how he's going to have the power or the insight to achieve it.

A REALLY great, balanced, and insightful post.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

When I was in Texas last week I got talking to a Mexican man who has lived in the states all his life, he said he'd never experienced racism towards him until the last few weeks, that's the scary part, it seems like this is now some sort of validation for racist to crawl out of the woodwork, that's scary.

well that is very anecdotal evidence and it could be coincidental

#blamebrexit

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well that is very anecdotal evidence and it could be coincidental

#blamebrexit

Yes it is anecdotal but I like to hear peoples personal experiences too, seems very coincidental for that man though

[smudgie]

Wonder if the plans are in for a Trump Towers in the centre of Moscow.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes it is anecdotal but I like to hear peoples personal experiences too, seems very coincidental for that man though

or he just attributes it to that as it makes it a better story

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or he just attributes it to that as it makes it a better story

Well considering Trumps comments regarding Mexicans and the fact people still voted him president it seems a logical conclusion for the guy to make....imho of course

[Josiah.]

I am so not happy right now. Even at 17 years old, I'm already thinking of either staying in Pittsburgh, or moving to Canada, or maybe joining Ben in New Zealand. This is too sad and ridiculous to comprehend right now.

[Nicky91]

Congratulations Donald Trump


you did it without the help of celebrities



omg Hillary being a bad loser, i wonder if she fainted again

[Livia]

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

[LeatherTrumpet]

anyone want to help me with my list of successful British PMs who we elected who were good at their job?


anyone?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

Is unemployment really a problem in the States though?, when I was there it seemed like every second place we went to had "hiring Now" signs and the people we spoke to said there were so many jobs available

[caprimint]

I don't really know much about this at all (all the things Trump/Clinton stand for and are against etc), but what I do know is that Trump had a hell of a lot of anti votes going into this so congrats to him on winning, he must have had a whole lotta support too. Hopefully he is able to prove people wrong (though really, people are always gonna moan about things and no PM/President will get everything right).

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Livia

As with the Brexit result, this is what you get when people are shut down when they raise concerns over immigration. It's what happens when people lose their jobs, lose their homes and yet the country still allows more people to arrive. It's what happens when people are called racists and bigots when they express concern over immigration. It happens on this forum, it happens in this country and it happens in the USA. Brexit and Trump are a direct result of ordinary people having no other way to express their concerns.

I really the position that cost Hillary the most was her desire to bring in more Syrian refugees.

[Niamh.]

A look into the future