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Old 10-11-2016, 07:49 PM #1101
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But then, on another thread, how do we equate that gang of blacks beating and kicking an elderly white man just because he voted for Trump ? Is THAT not racism from Clinton supporters?
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If the white man said nothingn to provoke them (which I doubt), it's that sense of what him voting for Trump means and them feeling attacked since the old man wanted to make America white again.
Hillary supporter have been proven to be about as, if not more hostile and aggressive as trump supporter have been. so I wouldn't be shocked if this attack was completely unprovoked.

The video kirk was talking about is probably more disgusting than anything I've seen from the trump rallied. The man in the video didn't seem to be at all hostile and was clearly trying to get back into his car and get away. How anyone can watch that video and not be both ashamed and enraged by the behaviour of the anti trump mob is beyond me.
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Hillary supporter have been proven to be about as, if not more hostile and aggressive as trump supporter have been. so I wouldn't be shocked if this attack was completely unprovoked.

The video kirk was talking about is probably more disgusting than anything I've seen from the trump rallied. The man in the video didn't seem to be at all hostile and was clearly trying to get back into his car and get away. How anyone can watch that video and not be both ashamed and enraged by the behaviour of the anti trump mob is beyond me.
Yes, of course it's a disgrace.

What do you think about Trump inciting and encouraging violence at his rallies?
At least Clinton didn't stoop that low.
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Yes, of course it's a disgrace.

What do you think about Trump inciting and encouraging violence at his rallies?
At least Clinton didn't stoop that low.
I thought it was awful, I'm by no means trumps no #1 fan.
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..just a little off topic..Mr A came home last night and he said 'we'll see..'..which is basically a life philosophy for both of us when it all feels grim with stuff...he said maybe we'll look back at Trump and Brexit being something that was actually some kind of turning point../..a path leading to etc and what seems awful now was actually ok as it all unfolded in time.../the world is pretty screwed up anyway and needs something to unscrew a little.../so it all feels a little less flat today...yep, we'll see...
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if hillary won, we and even this country would be arming for war with russia right now,
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..just a little off topic..Mr A came home last night and he said 'we'll see..'..which is basically a life philosophy for both of us when it all feels grim with stuff...he said maybe we'll look back at Trump and Brexit being something that was actually some kind of turning point../..a path leading to etc and what seems awful now was actually ok as it all unfolded in time.../the world is pretty screwed up anyway and needs something to unscrew a little.../so it all feels a little less flat today...yep, we'll see...
That's sorta of how I try to see it, Ammi... I think I kinda feel like we're repeating history in order to get to the future... if that makes sense... we're not used to social media and all these different parts of society being so close to connected to each other. After all, to be individualistic is to stand apart. The world is getting smaller day by day.
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That's sorta of how I try to see it, Ammi... I think I kinda feel like we're repeating history in order to get to the future... if that makes sense... we're not used to social media and all these different parts of society being so close to connected to each other. After all, to be individualistic is to stand apart. The world is getting smaller day by day.
..I guess how I see it is that Mr A had a long drive../was tired and weary... and sometimes gets a little crazy and talks rubbish...
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obama did nothing for the inner cities, race relations crashed to really bad levels under him, his daughters went around the world in trips and stayed in expensive hotels all thanks to the american worker, obama and hillary made the biggest mistake and chastised the church going vote, because the church vote is not just a white vote but is a black and a south american vote as well, there votes helped obama win his place in the white house in 2009, one thing the liberal left do today is that they cherry pick and then they think thats what will win them there election, hillary thought that it would get her in the white house,
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..I guess how I see it is that Mr A had a long drive../was tired and weary... and sometimes gets a little crazy and talks rubbish...
Eh, we're all entitled to that every once in a while... especially after Tuesday night
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obama did nothing for the inner cities, race relations crashed to really bad levels under him, his daughters went around the world in trips and stayed in expensive hotels all thanks to the american worker, obama and hillary made the biggest mistake and chastised the church going vote, because the church vote is not just a white vote but is a black and a south american vote as well, there votes helped obama win his place in the white house in 2009, one thing the liberal left do today is that they cherry pick and then they think thats what will win them there election, hillary thought that it would get her in the white house,
"Clinton", "Left" . Oh yeah if there's one word to describe the Clinton's... It's clearly communist. Come on.

This is not (and hasn't ever been) a right/left issue.
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I don't understand this, I mean why would women vote for a woman just because shes a woman?
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Maybe people were fed up of having to make do with voting for a lesser evil so they voted third party or not at all? Who can blame them really. Besides, Hilary provided no reasons to vote for her apart from the fact she wasn't Trump. That may have reduced Trump's numbers, but it didn't help her votes. Who is really going to queue for hours to vote for someone Who is "the lesser evil"?

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I don't understand this, I mean why would women vote for a woman just because shes a woman?
I don't think most people do, as this election showed, but for those who do, I reckon it's more of a symbolic thing, like a vote against the 'glass ceiling' rather than it being a vote for someone just because they're female.
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hillary cried when she lost, but did she cry to the mothers of benghazi, did she cry to the mothers of east ukraine after she helped overthrow an elected government and replaced it with thugs, did she cry to the families of the syrian army who are fighting mercenaries who are backed up by her clinton foundation, No, will she admit that bill was wrong to attack the serbs in the late 90s, No, she blames everyone but herself, she blamed obama and even her own team, because she lost the election.
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Can Trump prove he's not as despicable as we thought and publicly not condone the KKk parade set to take place in his honor? Comeon Trump do it for ''YOUR BLACKS''! Do it for Omarosa.
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trump does not support the kkk, he has said it many times that he does not want there support, would he stop there parade yes, but he will still not be in the white house when it goes ahead, its out of his hands at this time, black trump voters will be happy to hear that two black republicans have taken two very top posts in his cabinet, he must be doing something right,
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President-elect Donald J. Trump won the White House with an outsider’s populist promise to “drain the swamp” of Washington.

Now, as he prepares to assume the presidency, an open question remains about the capital he repeatedly spurned: Just how much is he willing to become a part of it?

Mr. Trump, a homebody who often flew several hours late at night during the campaign so he could wake up in his own bed in Trump Tower, is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House. He has told them he would like to do what he is used to, which is spending time in New York when he can.

The questions reflect what Mr. Trump’s advisers described as the president-elect’s coming to grips with the fact that his life is about to change radically. They say that Mr. Trump, who was shocked when he won the election, might spend most of the week in Washington, much like members of Congress, and return to Trump Tower or his golf course in Bedminster, N.J., or his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach on weekends.

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trump does not support the kkk, he has said it many times that he does not want there support, would he stop there parade yes, but he will still not be in the white house when it goes ahead, its out of his hands at this time, black trump voters will be happy to hear that two black republicans have taken two very top posts in his cabinet, he must be doing something right,
I can't link it because I'm on my phone but there's an interview of him during the campaign where he refuses to condemn them and refuses to state he doesn't want their vote. Maybe he back tracked after that because of advice he received though.
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I can't link it because I'm on my phone but there's an interview of him during the campaign where he refuses to condemn them and refuses to state he doesn't want their vote. Maybe he back tracked after that because of advice he received though.
Yes this. He has yet to condemn them. Since he's so vocal about everything else it shouldn't be a problem. Wouldn't be surprised if he has private conversations with some members.
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, black trump voters will be happy to hear that two black republicans have taken two very top posts in his cabinet, he must be doing something right,
Hm not sure about that. Some of the black people who voted for Trump hate black people. Like that black boy in the viral video vs BLM guy and Stacey Rash
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Yes this. He has yet to condemn them. Since he's so vocal about everything else it shouldn't be a problem. Wouldn't be surprised if he has private conversations with some members.
I understand this vile organisation of truly horrible individuals are planning a celebration of his victory.
If he does not totally disassociate himself from it and with no hesitation condemn it.
That will speak volumes about him.

Because really who, with even the tiniest shred of decency in them,would ever want in any way any support from that vile sect.
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