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11-12-2016, 04:24 PM | #26 | ||
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I live in Portugal and I'm not fluent in Portuguese yet, I have put endless hours into learning, but I haven't really got a gift for languages, so I'm improving constantly but it's slow.
Health care isn't free for me here and I just filled out some paperwork last week but most of the paperwork is in both English and Portuguese, I have never been provided an interpreter or anything like that, even at the hospital. Maybe the NHS could use Google translate or something like that for less severe things?
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11-12-2016, 04:31 PM | #27 | |||
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In my eyes, it's a basic thing to learn the local language. Especially English...
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11-12-2016, 04:32 PM | #28 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:32 PM | #29 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:35 PM | #30 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:38 PM | #31 | |||
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I'd learn the language if I moved abroad so people should here.
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11-12-2016, 04:38 PM | #32 | ||
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We have limited resources and cannot support those that can't support themselves whether that be benefits, health care, housing, education etc. Practically or Morally there really is no such thing as 'for free'. Britain and the British taxpayer are not a charity or a bank to be milked by the rest of the world. For every interpreter paid for someone else is likely to be refused certain treatments or have a procedure cancelled - when will people get it, there is not enough money in the pot and everyone suffers when money is wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters. |
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11-12-2016, 04:41 PM | #33 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:45 PM | #34 | |||
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You’re absolutely right. Some people learn a language easily whilst others find it very difficult. I tried to learn Portuguese btw and just gave up because I found it too difficult. I'm fluent in two languages and speak quite a bit of a third language but Portuguese proved to be really tough. One of the things that is really noticeable in France is, so few English residents speak enough French to do anything more than buy a baguette in the local patisserie.
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11-12-2016, 04:46 PM | #35 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:49 PM | #36 | |||
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Lets hope you find it really easy then.
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11-12-2016, 04:51 PM | #37 | ||
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Otherwise the system is totally flawed and will continue to encourage those that haven't paid in to take whilst giving nothing back and lead to the eventual collapse of the NHS. Then everyone will either have to take out private insurance to go without. No more freebies for anyone. |
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11-12-2016, 04:53 PM | #38 | |||
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11-12-2016, 04:59 PM | #39 | ||
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I love Portuguese and I learn new words and grammar rules every day and to be denied health care even though I make this effort would really crush me. Speaking of bakeries, the man who works at my local one always hears the wrong number of pieces if bread that I want and he gets extremely focused when I walk in so he doesn't give me fourteen instead of four again.
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11-12-2016, 05:01 PM | #40 | ||
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11-12-2016, 05:07 PM | #41 | ||
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You seem to have a money grows on trees mentally and somehow everything will be ok way of thinking. A reality check would be good. Last edited by Brillopad; 11-12-2016 at 05:08 PM. |
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11-12-2016, 05:08 PM | #42 | |||
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Oh right.. So it really was anout nationality all along... Is this one of those 'its not racism, its patriotism' moments.
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11-12-2016, 05:11 PM | #43 | |||
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You are not denied health care you just have to pay for it just like you would if you lived in Ireland, 50 Euros for a visit to the GP in Ireland isn't it, more now probably? And if you need an interpreter either take a friend fluent in the language or pay for one, it seems fair to me Last edited by Cherie; 11-12-2016 at 05:12 PM. |
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11-12-2016, 05:13 PM | #44 | ||
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Are all people born here the same colour - so no it isn't. It's about resources, fairness and people trying to get something for nothing not being rewarded for that.
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11-12-2016, 05:20 PM | #45 | |||
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11-12-2016, 05:22 PM | #46 | ||
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I wouldn't move to a foreign country if I couldn't speak the language but I wouldn't demand it of others.
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11-12-2016, 05:24 PM | #47 | ||
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11-12-2016, 05:28 PM | #48 | |||
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I dont understand your conclusion, I have made no suggestions for any changes to the health system and we currently have an NHS.. Seems like you put one and one together and got 27.
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11-12-2016, 05:35 PM | #49 | |||
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Nice to see the anti globalisation weed growing and bearing fruit....
If language is a barrier to an adequate diagnosis and a possible medical negligence claim then it makes perfect sense to remove it. How was the NHS functioning and in many areas self funding until recently? It's not the cost of interpreters, it's the fact the profit generating areas have been sold off.
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11-12-2016, 05:37 PM | #50 | ||
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