[user104658]

Since every thread at the moment seems to become about this topic within a few pages anyway, I thought we should just bite the bullet and have a thread about it.

Discuss.

[thesheriff443]

I don't waste my time debating issues we don't have any control over with people who don't have any control over the issues they are debating over.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I don't waste my time debating issues we don't have any control over with people who don't have any control over the issues they are debating over.

But you will debate debates, so you must feel that we have some control over debates, or at least the concept of debating itself?

My main area of concern at the moment is pondering which gender debates mostly self-identify as... And also which area of the political compass they find themselves drawn towards. At what point do debates reach this level of self awareness and, to what extent do the debaters involved in each debate influence the overall personality of the inconclusion?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

But you will debate debates, so you must feel that we have some control over debates, or at least the concept of debating itself?

My main area of concern at the moment is pondering which gender debates mostly self-identify as... And also which area of the political compass they find themselves drawn towards. At what point do debates reach this level of self awareness and, to what extent do the debaters involved in each debate influence the overall personality of the inconclusion?

I have an opinion, it's worth the same as every other poster on here it's worth nothing.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I have an opinion, it's worth the same as every other poster on here it's worth nothing.

So a sort of debating nihilism, then? People just butting heads for the sake of it... Or maybe for sport? But then, is doing something for sport necessarily worth nothing? From a nihilists perspective, isn't entertainment, whilst still meaningless, in fact worth everything to the individual?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

So a sort of debating nihilism, then? People just butting heads for the sake of it... Or maybe for sport? But then, is doing something for sport necessarily worth nothing? From a nihilists perspective, isn't entertainment, whilst still meaningless, in fact worth everything to the individual?

Considering most debates end in, infractions for insulting someone else's opinion because it's not the same as your opinion on a subject in wich no ones opinion means anything, I say it's like poking yourself in the eye over and over.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I don't waste my time debating issues we don't have any control over with people who don't have any control over the issues they are debating over.

But...general conversation in life wouldn't happen if we all thought like this If you could only talk about things you personally have control over...the list is pretty short for most people. Unless we have Theresa May or something posting on here...

Weathers nice isn't it?
I have no influence over the weather so cannot possibly comment.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But...general conversation in life wouldn't happen if we all thought like this If you could only talk about things you personally have control over...the list is pretty short for most people. Unless we have Theresa May or something posting on here...

Weathers nice isn't it?
I have no influence over the weather so cannot possibly comment.

I have general conversations in life and on here!, but I don't want to debate the weather!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I have general conversations in life and on here!, but I don't want to debate the weather!

I debated the weather with my 4 year old daughter this morning. Got pretty heated tbh. She was convinced that frost was snow and thought I was just being mean for saying she could not build a snowman

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I debated the weather with my 4 year old daughter this morning. Got pretty heated tbh. She was convinced that frost was snow and thought I was just being mean for saying she could not build a snowman

Did you ban them from certain parts of the house?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I debated the weather with my 4 year old daughter this morning. Got pretty heated tbh. She was convinced that frost was snow and thought I was just being mean for saying she could not build a snowman

why didn't you let her try? That way she got to learn a lesson and you get your path swept...win win

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Weathers nice isn't it?
I have no influence over the weather so cannot possibly comment.

I genuinely cant wait to say this to someone the next time someone brings it up! Thats hilarious

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But...general conversation in life wouldn't happen if we all thought like this If you could only talk about things you personally have control over...the list is pretty short for most people. Unless we have Theresa May or something posting on here...

Weathers nice isn't it?
I have no influence over the weather so cannot possibly comment.

I think it's Cherie!

Get out of here Cherie May!!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Merry Corbynmas

I think it's Cherie!

Get out of here Cherie May!!

my political views are centerist sometimes I lean left, sometimes right, but generally I'm standing in the middle

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

my political views are centerist sometimes I lean left, sometimes right, but generally I'm standing in the middle

Watch out for those splinters then

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well we did debate that child migrants not being checked would and could lead to terrorism and it went the usual way "they are REFUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ, where is the humanity????"

then a fake child migrant killed 12 and maimed a lot more in Berlin

that kind of shut that debate down and we did not hear much debating from that side


Some times reality debates for the win the best....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Make Christmas Great Again

Well we did debate that child migrants not being checked would and could lead to terrorism and it went the usual way "they are REFUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ, where is the humanity????"

then a fake child migrant killed 12 and maimed a lot more in Berlin

that kind of shut that debate down and we did not hear much debating from that side


Some times reality debates for the win the best....

What side? The side that knows one radicalised individual cannot represent all Muslims/ refugees?
Mind you your 'proof' was a mail article, so forgive me for not bowing to the wisdom of the brownshirts.... their reliability as a reputable media source is debatable

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Merry Corbynmas

What side? The side that knows one radicalised individual cannot represent all Muslims/ refugees?
Mind you your 'proof' was a mail article, so forgive me for not bowing to the wisdom of the brownshirts.... their reliability as a reputable media source is debatable

No

what we must do is just check the validity of the "bad ones" and let the "good ones" go through unchecked.

I will alert the authorities on this breakthrough

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Merry Corbynmas

What side? The side that knows one radicalised individual cannot represent all Muslims/ refugees?
Mind you your 'proof' was a mail article, so forgive me for not bowing to the wisdom of the brownshirts.... their reliability as a reputable media source is debatable

It would be nice if all this not tarring with the same brush extended as far as Christian priests but hey ho you can't have it all I suppose

[Cherie]

I'm disappointed LT hasn't pulled out the mass debate joke, what is the world coming to when you can rely on LT for old favourites

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

I'm disappointed LT hasn't pulled out the mass debate joke, what is the world coming to when you can rely on LT for old favourites

I did not think I could.. pull it off

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

It would be nice if all this not tarring with the same brush extended as far as Christian priests but hey ho you can't have it all I suppose

Have you a point to make about preists? let's debate it...

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Since every thread at the moment seems to become about this topic within a few pages anyway, I thought we should just bite the bullet and have a thread about it.

Discuss.

Everything is, or should be debatable. However the reality is that some subjects invoke such strength of feeling in many, on either side of the debate, that things can quickly deteriorate into discord and personal attacks out of frustration over the expression of some opposing views.

Political correctness also hinders the process as people become fixated on what is/is not an acceptable view to express which of course can be viewed as an attempt to dismiss and invalidate perfectly valid opinions.

People rarely really listen to each other and misunderstandings become commonplace.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Everything is, or should be debatable. However the reality is that some subjects invoke such strength of feeling in many, on either side of the debate, that things can quickly deteriorate into discord and personal attacks out of frustration over the expression of some opposing views.

Political correctness also hinders the process as people become fixated on what is/is not an acceptable view to express which of course can be viewed as an attempt to dismiss and invalidate perfectly valid opinions.

People rarely really listen to each other and misunderstandings become commonplace.

I kind of agree with this. I also think that more diverse point of views can be driven away from the forum and the diversity is interesting. We can listen even if we disagree.

[Crimson Dynamo]

also often you are debating with people still to live their lives and as such are still optimistic and idealistic and have not yet realised certain realities of life that come with experience, responsibility and commitment.