[the truth]

hallelujah someone is going after the doctors and their surgeries which break their contracts and close way before 8pm
take their funding hit them in the pocket and scrap the insane 2004 gp contract that allows all doctors not to work out of hours, which is the main reason we see so much pressure on hospitals and their doctors
bravo teresa

[Vicky.]

Are GPs not meant to close until 8? Ours closes at 6 everyday :/

[DemolitionRed]

Did you not add a link because you can't find a link that supports your opinion?

Doctors have always had office hour surgeries and been closed at weekends, with the exception opening on Saturday morning. Out of hour clinics took the place of doctors doing house calls out of surgery hours and out of hour GP clinics are very much an ongoing thing.

As for A&E, its always been busy at weekends. Most people attending A&E at weekends or in the evening, would be better calling 111 and getting an out of surgery appointment instead of (and this has always gone on) contaminating A&E with their hacking coughs, flu and other viruses.

Most surgeries are struggling because when they privatised (and most of them have) they believed the rewards/government subsidies were going to be far greater than they are. They were promised gold but what they got is straw.

May putting pressure on these private companies is going to cause nothing more than a **** storm.

[DemolitionRed]

What’s funny about this is, all these private GP practices, in an effort to save, have cut their GP’s by over half. Nurse practitioners only have to be paid around £30,000 a year whilst GP’s expect a salary of at least £100,000 a year, so it makes sense to have less GP’s and more NP’s. This will make no difference to all those struck off GP’s and any employed GP's won't be expected to do longer hours because when you do longer hours for a private company you have to be paid the over time. it could mean more nurse practitioners will be employed. Good for the NP’s but not good for business.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Are GPs not meant to close until 8? Ours closes at 6 everyday :/

Vicky Your Surgery is a Bad One
that means


Yes GP's are meant to Work until 8PM
feck sake Vicky - Look at their PAY
you could buy a Island with that!

[arista]

Did you not add a link because you can't find a link that supports your opinion?


Its was just Debated LIVE on
Ch4HD News


Also was Debated ALL
LIVE all day on LBC Global Radio
and SkyNewsHD
also radio4 AM

[arista]

My Surgery Closes at 8PM Vicky
but I am Not in North England, sadly.

[arista]

[DemolitionRed]

The surgery owners have contracts with the government for supplying service in return for a certain amount of money. For May to change any contractional obligation she needs to re-negotiate the deal. She can't just change it.

This is a pain in the neck for the new surgery owners, not the doctors. What don't people get about that?

[Scarlett.]

The Tories make me sick, literally.

[smudgie]

Both the surgeries in my town are owned by the doctors that work there, partners plus extra doctors that move up the ladder.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Both the surgeries in my town are owned by the doctors that work there, partners plus extra doctors that move up the ladder.

Some doctors have purchased their practices but very few practices are prepared to afford employing extra doctors because the funding they receive isn’t enough to cover salaries, (unless they are doing a side line in private care). They can however, employ unspecialized junior doctors as they only cost around £30,000 a year.

I work within this sector and my farther is a doctor so I have a fairly good idea of how things are being managed.

[the truth]

insane labour 2004 contract should be scrapped

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

insane labour 2004 contract should be scrapped

Bang On Right

[arista]

Originally Posted by Chewy

The Tories make me sick, literally.

Chewy put the Music you love
on.

[arista]

Vicky
Today on ITV1HD 10AM Peston Political
show he told the Chief of Doctors
that his kid was ill and his GP was busy so told him to go to A&E.

Now that Lady was Shocked
meaning No GP should do that.

So
His GP

And Your Surgery
both need SACKINGS.

As Another Doctor will stay open to 8PM for Vicky

And Another Doctor will fit Peston 's sick kid in
at that very end of the surgery
so he will be asked to stay in his car with the sick
kid
and the Doctor will phone him to come in.




Now some of you on tibb
think I am Rude , Nasty.
They are mistaken - They do not know me well.


This Post is Factual
not emotional.

[the truth]

good post arista you too like the TRUTH

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

good post arista you too like the TRUTH

[Vicky.]

GP was busy so told him to go to A&E

Yes a few people I know have been told this before...GP too busy, go to A&E...as if A&E isn't even busier. Luckily the only time I have needed an emergency appointment was for the kids though, and children under 10 get fasttracked..the receptionist will stop being a bitch for a few seconds and actually listen to whats wrong..sometimes she tries to diagnose you but I tell her I need to speak to the doctor then a doctor rings back and if he deems it worrying you go straight in to see him.

Go to hospital as GP is too busy is ridiculous.

Also I found out yesterday at my appointment that the reason we have to wait a MONTH for an appointment sometimes is because the doctors go round OAPs houses to cut their nails and such?! My GP told me they don't do housecalls when I was in absolute agony and couldn't walk along..but they visit houses for stuff like cutting toenails..really..

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Some doctors have purchased their practices but very few practices are prepared to afford employing extra doctors because the funding they receive isn’t enough to cover salaries, (unless they are doing a side line in private care). They can however, employ unspecialized junior doctors as they only cost around £30,000 a year.

I work within this sector and my farther is a doctor so I have a fairly good idea of how things are being managed.

Aye, we get the occasional junior doctor doing their 6 months stints as well, and very good they are.
Not sure how much private work our surgery does but it is in a very affluent area so that might be how they manage.