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14-01-2017, 01:09 PM | #1 | |||
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https://fullfact.org/economy/does-sm...akes-treasury/
Is it fair to single out any group whose lifestyle choices may cause health complications? Perhaps they should drop NHS cover for every tax dodger instead?
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14-01-2017, 01:10 PM | #2 | |||
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I'm a ex smoker btw but wont pass judgement on people who still choose to smoke.
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14-01-2017, 01:21 PM | #3 | ||
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Of course not. A huge part of the (or maybe the only) reason that after sucessfully stopping many people smoking...vapes are now being touted as dangerous and being banned from public places
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14-01-2017, 01:22 PM | #4 | ||
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I read a piece a while back that said obesity saved the NHS money also over the course of a persons life. Which makes perfect sense really. Short term there may be costs associated with it. But they are more likely to die younger, thus likely to need less 24/7 care for age related illnesses.
Most unhealthy things probably save money tbh.
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14-01-2017, 02:00 PM | #5 | ||
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The amount of money the government makes from taxing that industry is likely enough to offset the health costs and still turn a big profit. It's like gun control in America, it'll never happen because there's too much money in the industry. You'll get meaningless laws about not displaying packets and stuff like that but they'll never do anything to prevent the sales of cigarettes.
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16-01-2017, 08:07 AM | #6 | ||
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It's sort of dying out anyway though. When I was at University just 10 years back, a lot of people smoked at least socially. My sister in law is there now and smoked in her teens - but spent the 6 months before she went to Uni quitting smoking because basically no one does it any more / it's considered dirty.
Young people from deprived areas are still more likely to smoke but, basically, smoking just isn't "a thing" for the average young person these days. |
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16-01-2017, 08:14 AM | #7 | |||
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Watching Celebrity Big Brother, it surprises me how many of them do smoke. There's always a large group of them in that smokers' zone.
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16-01-2017, 11:23 AM | #8 | |||
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It's usually the twonks.... ( bitter ex twonk)
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16-01-2017, 11:42 AM | #9 | |||
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Yes they Puff Away its normal. Collen is on LWHD itv so viewers will watch her get worse as the years go on. The Female Producer /Director has Even Put her as the Main Presenter which she is not suited to and has to put her glasses on alot. This is due to other Main Presenters getting seriously Ill. I would bring a New YOUNG lady to do the presenting. Although live they spend Hours before sorting questions out, and testing everything thing So on LWHD itv get YOUNGER Women in charge or keep losing viewers. also she can walk from CBB and any next week day go LIVE on ITVHD. The next day So for a Chubby Smoker - she is doing well this month Last edited by arista; 16-01-2017 at 11:50 AM. |
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16-01-2017, 11:47 AM | #10 | ||
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16-01-2017, 11:54 AM | #11 | ||
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I feel like it is noticable, though, in the last few years, that most of the ones constantly in the smoking area are the older (> 30yo) housemates.
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16-01-2017, 11:57 AM | #12 | |||
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"but spent the 6 months before
she went to Uni quitting smoking because basically no one does it any more / it's considered dirty. " How Nice Smoking Stinks TC it is TOXIC |
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16-01-2017, 01:05 PM | #13 | |||
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Now if you had said 'ganga' I would agree with you except most people who smoke it mix it with tobacco.
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16-01-2017, 01:15 PM | #14 | ||
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I don't know the costs involved, but I do know that the tax on tobacco has always been vastly higher than that on alcohol. So the Treasury is getting more money from smokers than any other addiction group.
Then again, do smokers live longer than people who drink/take drugs/ eat too much etc.,?? |
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16-01-2017, 01:16 PM | #15 | |||
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Crack cocaine and Cocaine (that i assume Vicky is talking about) are two different things
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16-01-2017, 01:18 PM | #16 | ||
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16-01-2017, 01:19 PM | #17 | ||
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16-01-2017, 01:43 PM | #18 | |||
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They were Ł3.40 for 20 when I stopped as I was asked to by the kids plus I just couldn't justify the cost... Look what they are now! How the hell can anyone afford to smoke?! :/
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16-01-2017, 01:44 PM | #19 | ||
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I expect most people do what I do...**** buying it from shops, I buy it from the 'backy man'. 50g turner for 7 quid...where its like a fiver for 10g in the shops. Ciggies are between 3 and 5 quid for 20 depending on brand.
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16-01-2017, 01:47 PM | #20 | ||
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Crack is different to cocaine
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16-01-2017, 01:48 PM | #21 | ||
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"I don't want tea Billy! I want crack!" <-- actual, and BEST EVER, EastEnders quote. |
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16-01-2017, 01:51 PM | #22 | |||
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Powder cocaine can be snorted or injected into a vein but it can't be smoked. (someone may try smoking it but they'd be wasting their money) Crack cocaine is powder cocaine that has been formed into a rock (usually by adding baking soda) and is then smoked. Crack cocaine is smoked, powder cocaine isn't is all I’m saying.
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16-01-2017, 01:52 PM | #23 | |||
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Cocaine and crack cocaine are so different, in fact, that the criminal punishments associated to their use and possession are very different. For example, according to New York University possessing 500 grams of powder cocaine carries the same penalty as possessing 28 grams of crack. http://cocaine.org/the-difference-be...crack-cocaine/
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16-01-2017, 01:54 PM | #24 | ||
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I completely agree with this tbh. And there is never focus on alcohol...why? It ruins a hell of a lot of lives and I am sure puts a lot of pressure on A&Es too when idiots drink too much and fight or fall...etc. So much focus on smoking...when there are much worse things that are 'acceptable'
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16-01-2017, 01:55 PM | #25 | ||
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Oh, and yes, I meant powder coke. I didn't understand what the debate was about
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