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28-01-2017, 03:28 PM | #76 | |||
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'Over this time, I have watched as tobacco, coal, oil, chemicals and biotech companies have poured billions of dollars into an international misinformation machine composed of thinktanks, bloggers and fake citizens’ groups. Its purpose is to portray the interests of billionaires as the interests of the common people, to wage war against trade unions and beat down attempts to regulate business and tax the very rich. Now the people who helped run this machine are shaping the government.'
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tion?CMP=fb_gu
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28-01-2017, 06:42 PM | #77 | ||
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As for the mistreatment of any minority group - again that often comes down to perception/agenda. Wanting to protect the quality of life in their own country and protect British culture and identity is not 'mistreating' minority groups however much PC twists things, using derisive and blanket terms in an attempt to gag their freedom of speech. Not wanting certain religions to have their own laws and indulge in behaviours that flout our equality laws is not mistreatment of minorities it is standing up for our own beliefs and way of life and not allowing those to be mistreated by minority groups who have no respect for them. Last edited by Brillopad; 28-01-2017 at 06:51 PM. |
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28-01-2017, 09:24 PM | #79 | ||
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If it is so ambiguous and meanings differ based on perception? Who ever said protecting British culture was mistreating minorities?... you're projecting here. The example in your last comment is most strange, you appear to be referring to a specific group, is it Jewish?... They have their own courts and schools.
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28-01-2017, 09:42 PM | #81 | |||
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Is it uninformed to call someone PC? or a SJW?...
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28-01-2017, 09:45 PM | #82 | ||
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Not when in response to being called a bigot, seems quite tame in comparison.
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28-01-2017, 09:52 PM | #83 | ||
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I have no issues with Jewish culture as I don't see it being rammed down our throats or blatantly disrespecting our equality laws. |
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28-01-2017, 09:55 PM | #84 | |||
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Why is it tame, do you feel that being labeled a bigot is worse than being labeled 'PC'?
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28-01-2017, 10:06 PM | #87 | |||
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If a bigoted remark has been made then yes I've seen people being accused of bigotry, just because you don't accept the terms of the definition it doesn't make it so, your example of mass immigration is one issue... there are literally 100's of examples of remarks which have had 'PC' or 'SJW' pinned to them across many topics. Did you miss this? I only post this as a point of reference you understand. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...others-driving
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Trying to make it that calling someone bigoted is different from branding them PC or loony left or any of the other tired catchphrases LT relies on is both hilarious and hypocritical. |
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28-01-2017, 10:28 PM | #89 | ||
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Is's not just about whether I accept the definition or not it is also about whether a bigoted remark was made or whether the allegation was made based on ignorance, influence of personal opinion or agenda. You imply that if someone makes an allegation then it must be so. There are so many variables to consider in determining why that person made that remark. Btw the same also applies with people calling people PC etc - if you want to believe the person throwing allegations around is always right, then it works both ways. |
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28-01-2017, 10:35 PM | #90 | ||
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It's down to the accuser to prove their allegation, not the accused to prove their innocence. |
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28-01-2017, 10:43 PM | #91 | ||
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It's not, it's silly to act like Bigot is some forbidden word just because you're scared of being called out as one. It's Serious Debates, defend yourself and your ideals.
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28-01-2017, 10:53 PM | #92 | ||
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As for defending myself - read the thread and I think anyone who can read can see I have done exactly that. |
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28-01-2017, 10:56 PM | #93 | |||
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I don't imply anything, there is no real scenario here to compare. If someone makes a comment that fills the dictionary definition of what a bigot is then where's the harm in calling it out?... There is less scope for being wrong as the parimetres are more clearly defined. For a blanket term such as 'PC' first you have to explain what ''PC' means to you, then apply it to the situation.
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By the way I thought baiting wasn't allowed on this site! Last edited by Brillopad; 28-01-2017 at 11:08 PM. |
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