[Liberty4eva]

Thank god we finally have a president who will say The Emperor has no clothes.

The people who make my blood boil are the ones who knowingly participate in the destruction of their country. Donald Trump does not deserve one hundredth of the anger and hatred the leaders of Europe deserve for what they did to their countries. Sweden is the rape capital of the western world. It's a tragedy that such a beautiful country could be transformed so quickly.

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[Denver]

Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart

[Withano]

If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted, it would have just been another angry rant. Easy to ignore. But he wasnt accurate, he was spouting out ****, inaccurate and irresponsible lies to millions. Why his fanboys are okay with this is beyond me, but thats no the point im trying to make.
He runs a country, he has a job, his job isnt to make up stats and lies to anyone that will listen. If he does do this, the right and the left should condemn his words. Because somehow, he has become a man of power and the words he says, and the lies he tells will have a reactionsry effect especially if his fanboys continue to blindly follow him into his weird dystopian world.

[the truth]

trump the only person with the balls to highlight the truth

[Withano]

Worst thing is; I'm pretty sure he meant to say Sewan in Pakistan.. but just misspoke and was too stubborn to say he misspoke, so instead just let his fanboys make sense of his incorrect words for him.

(or misheard the news report and actually did mean Sweden due to carelessness)

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart

Funny thing is Adam,I don't think he is , it's some of it's people who will do that.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Funny thing is Adam,I don't think he is , it's some of it's people who will do that.

If the general population start tearing a country apart, it is invariably due to a flaw in that country's leadership. Civilisations have fallen all throughout history and it's not because the average people suddenly "went bad".

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted, it would have just been another angry rant. Easy to ignore. But he wasnt accurate, he was spouting out ****, inaccurate and irresponsible lies to millions. Why his fanboys are okay with this is beyond me, but thats no the point im trying to make.
He runs a country, he has a job, his job isnt to make up stats and lies to anyone that will listen. If he does do this, the right and the left should condemn his words. Because somehow, he has become a man of power and the words he says, and the lies he tells will have a reactionsry effect especially if his fanboys continue to blindly follow him into his weird dystopian world.

who reacted were those running Sweden obviously

do you think those in charge would be like yes we are overseeing this

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Funny thing is Trump is tearing the States apart

Really and what evidence do you have that America is being torn apart since January?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If the general population start tearing a country apart, it is invariably due to a flaw in that country's leadership. Civilisations have fallen all throughout history and it's not because the average people suddenly "went bad".

I think that is probably true but then i would be inclined to be blaming the previous leaderships who made the people feel so let down that they voted for change.Any change.
Not to mention the absolutely horrendous choice they were given.I honestly wouldn't have voted if i was an American.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Withano

If Trump was accurate in his rant - nobody would have reacted.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

who reacted were those running Sweden obviously

do you think those in charge would be like yes we are overseeing this

Yes Sweden reacted, you and I are reacting, millions of other people are reacting because the president of America just stood on stage and either deliberately lied, accidentally misspoke, or carelessly misheard huge information.
If he didnt do this, nobody would have reacted.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes Sweden reacted, you and I are reacting, millions of other people are reacting because the president of America just stood on stage and either deliberately lied, accidentally misspoke, or carelessly misheard huge information.
If he didnt do this, nobody would have reacted.

yes and the loony left would have continued to ignore the massive rise in sex crimes just as they did in rochdale

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes and the loony left would have continued to ignore the massive rise in sex crimes just as they did in rochdale

This isnt topical. It isnt new news. You were doing this yesterday too about Labour in 1997, asking why people care more about Trump 2017. I dont really know why it confuses you. People dont wait for months or years to gather an opinion.
Obviously sex crimes anywhere ever are horrific. I just read through a 'transgender rights in prison' and 'ukip letting those with violent pasts run' threads where the posts inside would both suggest that the "left" care a hell of a lot more than the "right" about sex crimes in general.
You cant take an outdated news story and assume that those who dont reply never cared - they probably did when the news story was fresh, they probably could write for days about their feelings, but this thread didnt exist half a year ago, and a thread asking people to recollect their thoughts on old news story are unlikely to ever be popular.
You added 1 and 1 together and got 35 (again)

[Livia]

The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.

The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.

There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.

The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.

There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Swedish government says there isn't a problem. And they are believed because their answer fits an agenda.

The British government makes any kind of statement... they're liars.

There is a migrant problem in Europe. Doesn't matter which way you twist it and wanting to protect your opwn borders doesn't make you a bigot. Let's watch the European elections this year... Netherlands... Germany.... watch the Right sweep in. And if they do... when they do... the people who pushed for an open door, let-them-all-in policy can claim the credit. It will be their victory.

True and i think Angela Merkel will have played a very very big role in that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

True and i think Angela Merkel will have played a very very big role in that.

I think I'm looking forward to Merkel's election the most. I had a couple of German friends staying last week... they are very worried about the rise of the Hard Right and set the blame for it squarely at Frau Merkel's feet.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think I'm looking forward to Merkel's election the most. I had a couple of German friends staying last week... they are very worried about the rise of the Hard Right and set the blame for it squarely at Frau Merkel's feet.

That is interesting to hear that German people see it how we do from the outside.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That is interesting to hear that German people see it how we do from the outside.

My friends come from a rural location near the Dutch border... even they have seen a change in their local towns and villages with massive amounts of newcomers. It is not sustainable.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Really and what evidence do you have that America is being torn apart since January?

The amount of mistakes he has already made, His unprofessionalism and his threat to kill spies

[Tom4784]

It's just a case of Trump's supporters trying to invent a story to go with his lies to try to validate them.

[Livia]

I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.

Everywhere I look its only Trump supporters claiming that by 'What happened in Sweden yesterday' Trump probs meant 'what happened in Sweden several months ago and definitely wasnt covered on Fox news yesterday'
It would be insane to jump to that conclusion.. unless youre a Trump fan.. then it kinda makes sense that you would think that..

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't think it's Trump supporters. I am not a Trump supporter... and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. My fella is looking at moving to the UK when we get married because he doesn't want to live in a country with Trump as president, and neither do I. That's how much of a Trump supporter I am. The man's terrifying. But that doesn't mean to say that what's happening in Europe is being "made up". To deny there is a problem is just as dangerous as the problem itself. It's the continual denial that's led to a backlash.

exactly. the left are still in denial even after the horrors of rochdale

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Everywhere I look its only Trump supporters claiming that by 'What happened in Sweden yesterday' Trump probs meant 'what happened in Sweden several months ago and definitely wasnt covered on Fox news yesterday'
It would be insane to jump to that conclusion.. unless youre a Trump fan.. then it kinda makes sense that you would think that..

I AM NOT A TRUMP FAN.

Can you see that? Do you understand it? Please try to understand it. You saying I am when I have stated CLEARLY that I am not, is trolling. Please desist.