[Braden]

"I've done top-liss!"

[Jason.]

It's still funny looking back at how vilified Grace was at the time when she's pretty tame by today's standards (although I guess that could be said for almost every other C4 villain). Even Bea was more vicious and that was only a few years later.

[Braden]

idk, looking back on her behaviour made for quite uncomfortable viewing.

I probably would have agreed with you before I watched this video, but there's no way some of the things she said back then would have been accepted in modern-BB (same for Nikki). I understand the Bea comparison, but I think Bea was more aware of what she was doing than Grace—it's bizarre that Grace would act the way she did and expect others to be vilified.

[reece(:]

At least Grace grew up and had a family, Bea is probably still in the woods now.

[Daniel.]

Bea is an evil genuis

[Jake.]

Yeah there's no way Grace/Nikki would get away with what they said now (or even from BB8 onwards really). They'd have constant warnings ala Helen Wood today.

[Jason.]

I didn't say her behaviour would be seen as acceptable with today's audience, of course not. She's really lucky she wasn't in BB8, otherwise she would've been thrown out for some of her comments.

My original point was in regards to how she's tame in comparison to some of the C5 villains we get today. Compare her to the likes of Conor, Helen, or even Caroline and she's nowhere in the same league, imo anyway. Also worth mentioning that the people I mentioned all lasted longer than Grace, two of which even walked out with money. Her behaviour would garner Ofcom complaints and she'd get a ton of warnings as a result but that wouldn't be surprising given how oversensitive viewers have become.

[Braden]

I'd personally say she's still up there with those people, she's just not as hostile because most of what she said was behind people's backs. Caroline was just a tamer, albeit erratic version of Grace anyway.

[Jake.]

Yeah i was gonna say caroline & grace are essentially the same person lol