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I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

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...no, it's about a decent politician taking a step against companies which promote unrealistic expectations about body image and health
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I mean ZOMG LOOK AT HIS WIFE YOU CAN BARELY SEE HER THROUGH THAT GREAT BIG GIANT BURKA

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I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ndon-transport
I was about to say you will get little joy on this, if it were a white straight man trying this it would be a different story

That said I see his point about unrealistic body images, but lets use to it for both male and females, you rarely see a pasty white /black weedy man in an advert unless it's to ridicule , so let's do it for both sexes

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[QUOTE=MB.;9260791]I mean ZOMG LOOK AT HIS WIFE YOU CAN BARELY SEE HER THROUGH THAT GREAT BIG GIANT BURKA

Whats with the caps? calm down. Bikini clad women have been around for many many years in this country on posters and the like. Taking posters down isn't going to stop young women wanting to be skinny. I don't see him making them take posters down of muscle men models or half naked men!
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I was about to say you will get little joy on this, if it were a white straight man trying this it would be a different story

That said I see his point about unrealistic body images, but lets use to it for both male and females, you rarely see a pasty white /black weedy man in an advert unless it's to ridicule , so let's do it for both sexes
LOL, I just posted a similar thing. whats good for one is good for the other.
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Bikini clad women have been around for many many years in this country on posters and the like. Taking posters down isn't going to stop young women wanting to be skinny. I don't see him making them take posters down of muscle men models or half naked men!
And that equals "the Islamification of this country is beginning!" how?
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I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ndon-transport
You can't help but question his true motivation. A Muslim man with 2 teenage daughters - does sound as though what he actually says and what he really means might not be the same thing.
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[QUOTE=MB.;9260821]And that equals "the Islamification of this country is beginning!" how?[/QUOTE

I think it is coming. Perhaps not in my lifetime but if something isn't done about radicalisation we are in danger and that scares me for my young family members. Just thinking my son was told by a young muslim man a couple of years ago.........we will take over your country, my son was just minding his own and this man just blurted this out for no reason. Anyway I hope I am wrong. I guess time will tell and I'm glad I wont be around to see it. One day there will be a bloodbath in the UK. Multiculture isn't working. I live in a very heavily populated muslim area and I can't help but notice that the white children and muslim children just do not mix with each other, of course some do but for the most part they don't. I watch them walking home from school in groups, one white group and one muslim group. Integration just isn't happening. It is sad but it is a reality
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I'm amazed you managed to get all that from a single 10 month-old story about a billboard. That's one special skill you got there x
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And that equals "the Islamification of this country is beginning!" how?[/QUOTE

I think it is coming. Perhaps not in my lifetime but if something isn't done about radicalisation we are in danger and that scares me for my young family members. Just thinking my son was told by a young muslim man a couple of years ago.........we will take over your country, my son was just minding his own and this man just blurted this out for no reason. Anyway I hope I am wrong. I guess time will tell and I'm glad I wont be around to see it. One day there will be a bloodbath in the UK. Multiculture isn't working. I live in a very heavily populated muslim area and I can't help but notice that the white children and muslim children just do not mix with each other, of course some do but for the most part they don't. I watch them walking home from school in groups, one white group and one muslim group. Integration just isn't happening. It is sad but it is a reality
We should do the same as the Swiss - if they don't integrate and follow the laws and culture of Switzerland they won't get citizenship.
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Why does it matter if he's a Muslim? How does that come before his role in Government?

It's the Mayor planning to tackle body dismorphia. Did Boris Johnson get "White Blonde Male Mayor has several racist comments on Black people"?
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Why does it matter if he's a Muslim? How does that come before his role in Government?

It's the Mayor planning to tackle body dismorphia. Did Boris Johnson get "White Blonde Male Mayor has several racist comments on Black people"?
he should do the same for male models. Why just women
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yeah, good eh
I was going to say "racist" but sure, if that's the word you'd like to go with

How about you stop trivialising actual acts of radical Islamic terror by deluding yourself into thinking the Mayor of London wants every woman to walk around in burkas? Surely that's easier?

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he should do the same for male models. Why just women
If you could name a recent advertising campaign featuring a male model which has received over 70,000 signatures in a petition to have it banned, then you might have the slightest trace of a point. That is, of course, ignoring the fact that he stated in the article that this kind of advertising "demeans people, especially women" (i.e. men as well, but there aren't as many ads promoting extreme weight loss for men, so he's currently - as a sensible father - focusing on trying to make sure his young daughters, and other young women in that situation, don't grow up buying into that kind of stuff) which you've conveniently skipped over... funny that
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I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ndon-transport
I think you've put 2 and 2 together and got 20 although the answer's written right there. You've essentially assumed that, because he is a Muslim, that he automatically has some sort of evil Muslim agenda to force Shariah Law upon the UK.

The idea of 'muslims taking over' that prejudiced people have is a hysterical and unrealistic fear, it's not going to happen. Muslims are not out to get you.

I think he is right to want get rid of body shaming adverts, if he was a white christian man would you accuse him of having an ulterior motive?
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he should do the same for male models. Why just women


Sexist..apparently men arent as easily influenced as silly women .....
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I think you've put 2 and 2 together and got 20 although the answer's written right there. You've essentially assumed that, because he is a Muslim, that he automatically has some sort of evil Muslim agenda to force Shariah Law upon the UK.

The idea of 'muslims taking over' that prejudiced people have is a hysterical and unrealistic fear, it's not going to happen. Muslims are not out to get you.

I think he is right to want get rid of body shaming adverts, if he was a white christian man would you accuse him of having an ulterior motive?
I would ask the same question..why just women?
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...because women are twice as likely to suffer from a clinically significant eating disorder? And because the story is about an advertising campaign complained about by over 70k people because it says that women aren't "beach body ready" unless they look like a twig?
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I was going to say "racist" but sure, if that's the word you'd like to go with

How about you stop trivialising actual acts of radical Islamic terror by deluding yourself into thinking the Mayor of London wants every woman to walk around in burkas? Surely that's easier?


oh I'm sure the muslim men would love that everyone walks around in burkas. My guess it was a muslim man who made the first woman wear a burka, I doubt it was the idea of a woman, I might be wrong but somehow I think not. Its a control thing with men, luckily muslim women are becoming more independent and unafraid. Good for them I say.
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I would ask the same question..why just women?
Did I say anything about excluding men? I didn't even specify women in that post. I didn't think I'd need to specify both genders since it was obvious I was talking about both genders in the first place.

In fairness though, Bodyshaming in advertising is more of an issue that affects women anyway because adverts are designed depending on the gender they are aimed at. Female-centric advertising quite often relies on exploiting insecurities while a lot of male aimed advertisements tend to be more about inflating egos 'You're amazing already, buy this and be even more of a legend!'.

It's why discussions of bodyshaming is often centred more on women, it's more prevalent in media and advertising aimed at them, it doesn't mean that people are okay with men being bodyshamed, it's just that it's not as prevalent as it is with women.

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oh I'm sure the muslim men would love that everyone walks around in burkas. My guess it was a muslim man who made the first woman wear a burka, I doubt it was the idea of a woman, I might be wrong but somehow I think not. Its a control thing with men, luckily muslim women are becoming more independent and unafraid. Good for them I say.
Do you believe that all christian men would prefer women to dress like puritans or do you only paint in broad strokes when it comes to Islam?
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...because women are twice as likely to suffer from a clinically significant eating disorder? And because the story is about an advertising campaign complained about by over 70k people because it says that women aren't "beach body ready" unless they look like a twig?
Its always been the same, most men don't fancy obese women and unfortunately many women are out to please men Of course I know there are men that fancy fat women but not that many I don't think. Would it be acceptable if a model is a healthy weight on a billboard? I think he would still have wanted it banning. Women should have a choice to model in bikinis, by banning them he is trying to take away their choice for his own personal reasons
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most men love a beautiful naked womans body, if truth be known they would love it if they would all walk around naked, but the married men wouldn't want that of course because they don't want other men to fancy their women lol
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Its always been the same, most men don't fancy obese women and unfortunately many women are out to please men Of course I know there are men that fancy fat women but not that many I don't think. Would it be acceptable if a model is a healthy weight on a billboard? I think he would still have wanted it banning. Women should have a choice to model in bikinis, by banning them he is trying to take away their choice for his own personal reasons
Models don't typically have a choice in what they wear in jobs, they either accept a job or not, go to it and wear what they are told to wear. They have to like it or lump it.

He's also not trying to ban modelling in bikinis? he's trying to restrict bodyshaming advertisements. Jumping to conclusions won't get you anywhere.
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