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After watching the news conference where a statement was made by one of the returnees that after a couple of days they decided to give the Iranians "non sensitive" information about their operations. He later contradicted himself by stating that they were all kept in isolation until the last few days - make of that what you will, I have.

But

Whatever happened to "Name Rank and Serial Number"

i.e. the only information required to be given under international law and the geneva convention.

None of them have been beaten and tortured, and as far as I can gather from the interviews and information released, and no-one is even suggesting otherwise

The level of "psychological torture" was confined to telling them if they didn;'t answer questions they could face up to 7 years in jail, making them wear pyjamas and making them sleep on piles of blankets instead of beds.

and there is no contradiction to that - no-one is suggesting they were beaten.

My god what has the british military come to ?

Take what is regarded as one of the British Militaries finest hours, the Seige of Rourkes Drift. Immortalized in the film Zulu, when a handful of British Soldiers. many sick and confined to a hospital fought off thousands of Zulu warriors, facing what were described as insurmountable odds and certain death.

Today - they would have surrendered - they thought they couldn't have won and didn't want to die.

newsflash - no-one wants to die
But its called doing your duty.


The Charge Of The Light Brigade - they must be turning in their graves, likewise the troops who went over the top in 1914 - 18, and those men who fought in WW2 must be wetting themsleves.

No doubt the navy returnees will all get medals - in the day and age of a government and military leadership who, in the past three years have rendered the Victoria Cross worthless by giving it to people who did far less to "earn" it than in any previous conflict.

then off to civvy street to flog their stories, especially the woman who is living proof to people like me who think women should not be allowed on the front line - too much propoganda value to tug at the heartstrings when they get captured.