[Ronald.]

Originally Posted by Withano

I dont mind May. She comes off intelligent and hard-working, which is more that can be said for most of the rest of the party.

I agree. I've never been tory but i think she is a good leader. She's a strong figure and seems popular within her party. A few of my friends have said they like her even though they're normally Labour or Plaid. Like myself, they find her a "safer" pair of hands than Corbyn let's say. R.

[Jack_]

Well this is a disaster. Five more years of misery for those who have the least, the destruction of the education system and the decimation of the NHS. And people are going to willingly vote for this! Can't wait!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Great speech.
She has hit the nail on the head, hopefully this will give her a better chance of getting what we need from Brexit.
Should be an interesting election, more for the Labour Party.

She comes across as grounded and fair, but no pushover. I like her.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well this is a disaster. Five more years of misery for those who have the least, the destruction of the education system and the decimation of the NHS. And people are going to willingly vote for this! Can't wait!

This is such a dreadful, third world country that we live in. We're all practically starving.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is such a dreadful, third world country that we live in. We're all practically starving.

Disgusting sarcasm when there's plenty of people who actually are struggling to put food on the table and having to visit food banks

But hey, we're getting our country back so **** those scummy paupers!!! Who cares!! Privatise the NHS!!!! Finish them off!!!!!1

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well this is a disaster. Five more years of misery for those who have the least, the destruction of the education system and the decimation of the NHS. And people are going to willingly vote for this! Can't wait!

Depressing isn't it?

I suspect it will also be the final nail in Corbyn's political leadership coffin. He was never leadership material; political campaigner, without a doubt, he can grasp causes but to aspire to be PM, he's never ever considered it. His one saving grace could be that those who voted to stay in the EU might use their power to prevent the Tories having overwhelming power.

[DemolitionRed]

And note, since we now have fixed-term Parliaments in Westminster, Ms May requires a two-thirds majority, or a motion of no confidence in her Government, to get her way on this. It's a reckless gamble; she has a majority barely in double figures.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is such a dreadful, third world country that we live in. We're all practically starving.

The number of poor children going hungry during the school holidays is increasing to “heart-breaking” levels, teachers across the country have warned.

As many as four in five staff (80 per cent) reported a rise in “holiday hunger” over the past two years, with parents of children who qualify for free school meals (FSM) during term-time struggling to find the money to fund extra meals during school holidays.

In a survey led by the National Union of Teachers (NUT), 78 per cent of the 600 teachers polled said they recognised children arriving at school hungry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a7687091.html

[Ronald.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

And note, since we now have fixed-term Parliaments in Westminster, Ms May requires a two-thirds majority, or a motion of no confidence in her Government, to get her way on this. It's a reckless gamble; she has a majority barely in double figures.

I don't think it's in any of the oppositions' interests to vote against this? R.

[DemolitionRed]

And will we miss the NHS when we have to pay Ł70 for a prescription and afford medical insurance higher than the average mortgage? It may sound daft now but those times are nearly with us.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Depressing isn't it?

I suspect it will also be the final nail in Corbyn's political leadership coffin. He was never leadership material; political campaigner, without a doubt, he can grasp causes but to aspire to be PM, he's never ever considered it. His one saving grace could be that those who voted to stay in the EU might use their power to prevent the Tories having overwhelming power.

Very much so.

Owen Jones had it right in the heartfelt video he uploaded a month or so back, the risk of a landslide defeat for Labour is a disaster for everyone on the left, because it'll put our cause on the backfoot for another entire generation. As Kizzy touched on, the support for the policies is there but people just can't shake the image they have of Corbyn. I voted for him twice but something had to give, we needed time to do some policy developing and hand the baton over to someone like Clive Lewis who could stand on the same platform but without the baggage. Alas, it's too late. There isn't much to hope for in my eyes! You know it's bad when what's coming is blindingly obvious, and yet they're going to be granted a humongous majority to implement all of it

This country and its people are awful.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The number of poor children going hungry during the school holidays is increasing to “heart-breaking” levels, teachers across the country have warned.

As many as four in five staff (80 per cent) reported a rise in “holiday hunger” over the past two years, with parents of children who qualify for free school meals (FSM) during term-time struggling to find the money to fund extra meals during school holidays.

In a survey led by the National Union of Teachers (NUT), 78 per cent of the 600 teachers polled said they recognised children arriving at school hungry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a7687091.html

Who cares? The future is prosperous, we're getting Ł350m for the NHS and our country back! I'm sure they can find some food in a bin!

[Ronald.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Who cares? The future is prosperous, we're getting Ł350m for the NHS and our country back! I'm sure they can find some food in a bin!

Let them eat cake! R.

[smudgie]

Labour and Lib Dem are all for the election, so no problem there.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Disgusting sarcasm when there's plenty of people who actually are struggling to put food on the table and having to visit food banks

But hey, we're getting our country back so **** those scummy paupers!!! Who cares!! Privatise the NHS!!!! Finish them off!!!!!1

Open borders will finish off the NHS. We all know where Corbyn stands on that, let them all in, including potential terrorists, the more the merrier - never mind that it will be a much more dangerous place to live for all of us however people voted.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Open borders will finish off the NHS. We all know where Corbyn stands on that, let them all in, including potential terrorists, the more the merrier - never mind that it will be a much more dangerous place to live for all of us however people voted.

No, the deliberate and systematic undermining and underfunding of the NHS will finish off the NHS, but you carry on believing the false narrative about open borders and terrorism.

We'll see in five years what the state of the NHS is.

[Cherie]

I'm not so sure it is cut and dried, May in her speech made it mainly about Brexit so rather than your standard Gen Election it has become more of a remain/leaver vote to my mind.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well this is a disaster. Five more years of misery for those who have the least, the destruction of the education system and the decimation of the NHS. And people are going to willingly vote for this! Can't wait!

People never learn from their mistakes.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm not so sure it is cut and dried, May in her speech made it mainly about Brexit so rather than your standard Gen Election it has become more of a remain/leaver vote to my mind.

A fair point, but Labour's stuck between a rock and a hard place and in deciding to back Brexit they've alienated a lot of their core base (as they would have done in reverse), the Lib Dems are gonna be the anti-Brexit vote, expect their seats to double at the very least.

It's in Labour's best interest to shift the narrative of this election from Brexit to all of the other issues on the table, not sure it's going to get through though.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Open borders will finish off the NHS. We all know where Corbyn stands on that, let them all in, including potential terrorists, the more the merrier - never mind that it will be a much more dangerous place to live for all of us however people voted.

It'll probably be more due to the fact that the Secretary of Health once wrote a book on how to dismantle the NHS through privatisation but of course, it's the immigrants' fault, not the corrupt party that has constantly shown that they want to shaft everyone who isn't in the 1'%....

Good grief.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, the deliberate and systematic undermining and underfunding of the NHS will finish off the NHS, but you carry on believing the false narrative about open borders and terrorism.

We'll see in five years what the state of the NHS is.

We will indeed - as I work in it I have even more reason to want it to survive. Corbyn can't magically find the money, he will try to rob Peter to pay Paul with, most likely, disasterous results.

What about benefits, where will all that money come from as he will be bound to want to hand them out willy nilly as well. He couldn't manage a children's tea party. Good intentions are not enough.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm not so sure it is cut and dried, May in her speech made it mainly about Brexit so rather than your standard Gen Election it has become more of a remain/leaver vote to my mind.

Yes she did a great job, remember when she was a remainer?...No, neither do I :/

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We will indeed - as I work in it I have even more reason to want it to survive. Corbyn can't magically find the money, he will try to rob Peter to pay Paul with, most likely, disasterous results.

What about benefits, where will all that money come from as he will be bound to want to hand them out willy nilly as well. He couldn't manage a children's tea party. Good intentions are not enough.

You work in the NHS and you're pro-Tory? Jesus Christ, talk about masochism.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You work in the NHS and you're pro-Tory? Jesus Christ, talk about masochism.

Not always. But I don't support Corbyn or his policies. I vote for those whose overall policies I support (excluding the NHS, but I think it will be even more at risk in Corbyn's hands). I don't blindly vote for any one party. Labour policies are way too idealistic without any real thought to the long-term consequences to the majority of us in my opinion.

At worst I can always get a job somewhere else. At worst with labour is far more life-changing in my opinion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes she did a great job, remember when she was a remainer?...No, neither do I :/

That's not the point I was making