[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

These figures are 2010

That's why I said in my post it was 2010! 2010 predictions to 2050

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

That's why I said in my post it was 2010! 2010 predictions to 2050

I reckon their predictions are way out

[parmnion]

oh for christ sake....**** me.

So people have to prove this and that to get state benifits..


well its about time these gobbledook rligious nutters started proving god is real or whoever the stupid name is that they worship.

only fair.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I reckon their predictions are way out

Maybe so but its the closest predictions I could find.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I reckon their predictions are way out

I do too, i think 50-60% will be non-religious in 2050

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

I do too, i think 50-60% will be non-religious in 2050

Hopefully

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Really! where did you hear this?

Where did you hear there are?

[Glenn.]

Religion should be abolished right across the world. No place in this world for such nonsense

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Religion should be abolished right across the world. No place in this world for such nonsense

I agree in a sense though where religion does give comfort it is hard to take that from people who need it. However I think that religion should be governed strictly by the other rules of society, particularly regarding discrimination and religious uniforms. It should have no official place in society, politics or education. It should only be allowed to be taught where a balanced view is given.

[Brother Leon]

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

[Denver]

Make every believe in Buddhism

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

Agreed

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

live and let live.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

I just think it should be seperate from state and education

[Alf]

God is great and powerful.

But he always seems to be short of a bob or two. Forever on the bleeding scrounge.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

You say this but you know... ISIS

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It bewilders me that the oppression of women and girls on that scale is so acceptable to some people in the name of a fantasy deity that men decide to speak for.
How do you manage to confuse that with racism?

Because it implies that the majority of Muslims are the "stereotypical tabloid muslim" which is, simply, false. The vast majority of Muslims don't "oppress their women and girls" any more than any other group. That's pretty much standard in the definition of racism, isn't it? Believing negative stereotypes?

Secondly it all plays into the hysteria that "so many Muslims are pouring in!!!" that it's in any way likely to significantly alter the status quo of the whole country. Which is just nonsensical. Especially when - as I said - the fastest growing group is in fact the non-religious.

Thirdly, the worrying trend recently for backwards thinking, and the very real resurgence in active fascism in countries much closer to home, IS an active and ongoing threat to "our values and way of life" but no one seems to care. Too distracted by the scary brown people, I suppose.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You say this but you know... ISIS

Nobody should be allowed to have faith in a higher being because ISIS. Makes sense.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Nobody should be allowed to have faith in a higher being because ISIS. Makes sense.

ISIS is about because of religion

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

Maybe that could work if those people believing and practicing what they want weren't going round threatening to kill all 'non-believers' and in their own country. The arrogance of such people is astounding.

Their attitude is harmful, maybe not to you as a man, but to Muslim and non-Muslim women alike. Any religion with such beliefs cannot be allowed to prosper in the West.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

ISIS is about because of religion

So?.. your problem should be with ISIS, not with religion. You should be able to separate the two things, literally everybody else can.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

So?.. your problem should be with ISIS, not with religion. You should be able to separate the two things, literally everybody else can.

Religous doctrine created ISIS. It allowed/encouraged men to interpret its religous views of 'female modesty' in such a way as to make it accepable to imprison and control them to achieve it. Religous doctrine sowed that seed in my opinion.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

ISIS is about because of religion

The bible also tells people to kill

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Religous doctrine created ISIS. It allowed/encouraged men to interpret its religous views of 'female modesty' in such a way as to make it accepable to imprison and control them to achieve it. Religous doctrine sowed that seed in my opinion.

This isnt relevant to the point anybody was making..

but since you brought it up, do you think the worst thing about ISIS is their treatment of females?