[DemolitionRed]

These are the words of Matt Chorley of The Times who is madly anti-Labour (as you would expect) and who wrote in the Red Box email (which is free and I consider essential daily reading) https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...dbox-925pqzzpj

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...118918_1898515
"Three weeks ago I wrote that despite being likened to Margaret Thatcher and Jesus, May was actually not very good. She is fine at reading things out but terrible at answering questions or responding to criticism. I was surprised by the number of senior Tories, under sworn secrecy, who got in touch to say that in the privacy of their own thoughts, they agreed.

Support within for the PM in the Tory party, even among ministers, is wide but pretty shallow.

I admit now I made two mistakes in that column. First, I predicted the correction in public opinion would come after June 8, when May had to make big decisions and her mettle was tested. It has come much sooner.

And I ended by saying: “But it’s fine because she is going to win, and win big, and I will be removed from my bed in the middle of the night to be taken to a camp and re-educated.”

I admit I was wrong. The idea that May will win big now looks, if not impossible, in serious doubt".

[Kizzy]

I hope to god he's right :/

[joeysteele]

Nothing good or endearing about her at all.
A truly deceitful individual with virtually no,at least, political redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Obviously I know nothing as to her personally and how really grateful I am as to that.

[Mystic Mock]

I know that I can be quite blunt when it comes to Theresa May so I'll say this in her defence, I really wouldn't have wanted to takeover as PM after David Cameron's idiotic move for an EU Referendum, she didn't call it and is now having to try and find a solution that David Cameron created, no she really hasn't handled it well at all, she stumbles in the debates about the EU, she has antogonised pretty much everybody that isn't a hardline Tory voter, she's just very lucky that her opposition is weak otherwise she would lose the Election.

Obviously with the recent Manchester attack aswell it's again not been made easy for her to sort the mess out, but I can't help but feel that if this was Tony Blair or most other ex-leaders for that matter I feel that they'd make people less scared and panicked about what's just happened, and about Brexit too.

[Locke.]

Thank you for being the voice of reason our Country needs at this time, Mock

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Thank you for being the voice of reason our Country needs at this time, Mock

Is this sarcasm?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I hope to god he's right :/

Not win big is his claim - not not win. Besides just another opinion.

[jaxie]

And Jeremy Corbyn is dreadful. Given a choice she does come across better.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by jaxie

And Jeremy Corbyn is dreadful. Given a choice she does come across better.

She REALLY doesn't at all!!!

She's failed to deliver everything she's promised going back to before she was even PM..............and it's pretty much the same things she's been non-delivering on. They don't call her the Maybot for nothing!

All she does is repeat her weak little campaign catchphrases (in increasingly frustrated pitch) that don't hold up. She's to debating what UKip is to constructive politics!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

She REALLY doesn't at all!!!

She's failed to deliver everything she's promised going back to before she was even PM..............and it's pretty much the same things she's been non-delivering on. They don't call her the Maybot for nothing!

All she does is repeat her weak little campaign catchphrases (in increasingly frustrated pitch) that don't hold up. She's to debating what UKip is to constructive politics!

All Corbyn does is wildly promise the world to all those gullible voters desperate for a miraculous change in our economy. It is all talk with little actual realism involved. Short-term plans with no thought given to long-term effects - DEBT. He is unlikely to keep to them anyway once in because they are largely unworkable.

This is effectively still a vote on Brexit and the remainers scared of change and going it on our own are clutching at every chance, every straw and every 'promise' they can to effectively overturn Brexit. It really is quite painful to watch.

[Cherie]

We are in a US style situation where none of them are any good tbf, imagine Farron or Nutalll in coalition :shudder:

[Kizzy]

If you want realism then as soon as the tories get back in there will be a further 7% reduction for schools ( as reported by the IFS yesterday) and the NHS dismantled.

We will also be at increased risk of attack due to our negligence in relation to failures in tackling home grown terrorism.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

All Corbyn does is wildly promise the world to all those gullible voters desperate for a miraculous change in our economy. It is all talk with little actual realism involved. Short-term plans with no thought given to long-term effects - DEBT. He is unlikely to keep to them anyway once in because they are largely unworkable.

This is effectively still a vote on Brexit and the remainers scared of change and going it on our own are clutching at every chance, every straw and every 'promise' they can to effectively overturn Brexit. It really is quite painful to watch.

The manifesto is costed Brillo unlike the Cons in particular the breakfast club which didn't include costing for staffing and other overheads, schoolgirl error

[user104658]

The Tories didn't expect Brexit and Cameron was expected to still be PM for several years. Brexit happened, he ran for the hills. Couldn't see him for dust. Not that I blame him...

Anyway, she was shoehorned into a role that she wasn't right for, with next to no preparation, because frankly no one else wanted to touch it with a barge pole. So it's not really surprising that she comes across as an amateur local theatre performer reading from a sheet of A4 whilst doing a bad impersonation of Margaret Thatcher.

[Withano]

Shes ****e, but that's not really relevant. What matters are the policies, and hers are ****e

[Kizzy]

They are and yet that's going to be overshadowed by her bony fingers pointing at Corbyn due to her suggestions 'we are to blame' for terrorism..... :/

No love YOU and your party are, from the drones to the reduction in policing, the ill equipped forces and the deviation from PREVENT.

She is the one with blood on her hands.

[Northern Monkey]

She is fecking terrible.This should've been the easiest election campaign ever.I mean just look at the opposition.She didn't need to do anything.She could've sat at home and watched telly with her feet up and still won.
How is she fecking this up?

I mean foxhunting?

Reversing an ivory ban?

Is she deliberately trying to lose?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

She is fecking terrible.This should've been the easiest election campaign ever.I mean just look at the opposition.She didn't need to do anything.She could've sat at home and watched telly with her feet up and still won.
How is she fecking this up?

I mean foxhunting?

Reversing an ivory ban?

Is she deliberately trying to lose?

She was just so comfortable in her lead, that she felt she could put forward anything and assumed that not enough people would switch to Labour or UKIP... She's half right tbf... for now.. I think more people are becoming savvy to her dark dystopian future though

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

She was just so comfortable in her lead, that she felt she could put forward anything and assumed that not enough people would switch to Labour or UKIP... She's half right tbf... for now.. I think more people are becoming savvy to her dark dystopian future though

This is what i thought too.Now i just think she doesn't think she's strong and stable enough for the job so she's throwing the towel in.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JTM45

She REALLY doesn't at all!!!

She's failed to deliver everything she's promised going back to before she was even PM..............and it's pretty much the same things she's been non-delivering on. They don't call her the Maybot for nothing!

All she does is repeat her weak little campaign catchphrases (in increasingly frustrated pitch) that don't hold up. She's to debating what UKip is to constructive politics!

Really glad you are posting more, I agree with all you say.
How people can admire her for all she stands for and also not see through her deceit astounds me.

[Denver]

Corbyn not wants to take safety away from the people so remind me who is bad

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

All Corbyn does is wildly promise the world to all those gullible voters desperate for a miraculous change in our economy. It is all talk with little actual realism involved. Short-term plans with no thought given to long-term effects - DEBT. He is unlikely to keep to them anyway once in because they are largely unworkable.

This is effectively still a vote on Brexit and the remainers scared of change and going it on our own are clutching at every chance, every straw and every 'promise' they can to effectively overturn Brexit. It really is quite painful to watch.

Whilst you chant on about how impressionable we all are. Have you bothered to educate yourself about fiscal spending or how government can climb out of economic recession?. Do you actually know the difference between fiscal deficit and debt? I somehow doubt it because if you did, you wouldn't of just spouted that pointless nonsense. Unfortunately though, I think a lot of people think/believe like you do. The only thing that will stop the Tories being kicked out of No 10 is ignorance.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

She is fecking terrible.This should've been the easiest election campaign ever.I mean just look at the opposition.She didn't need to do anything.She could've sat at home and watched telly with her feet up and still won.
How is she fecking this up?

I mean foxhunting?

Reversing an ivory ban?

Is she deliberately trying to lose?

No.. She's appealing for sponsors for her campaign, have you seen the spike in tory donations since the election was called? That's not from joe bloggs the roofer... that's essentially her lobbying, fund us and we'll look after your interests, not the proles!

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No.. She's appealing for sponsors for her campaign, have you seen the spike in tory donations since the election was called? That's not from joe bloggs the roofer... that's essentially her lobbying, fund us and we'll look after your interests, not the proles!

Makes sense

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Whilst you chant on about how impressionable we all are. Have you bothered to educate yourself about fiscal spending or how government can climb out of economic recession?. Do you actually know the difference between fiscal deficit and debt? I somehow doubt it because if you did, you wouldn't of just spouted that pointless nonsense. Unfortunately though, I think a lot of people think/believe like you do. The only thing that will stop the Tories being kicked out of No 10 is ignorance.

Yeah, because we are all brain dead with no memories.......like this really worked last time.
Oh, and no, we don't forget the global recession either.
Facts fit to suit whatever agenda anyone wants them to fit...on both sides.
Most people who can be bothered to vote look around them at the facts that suit them and vote accordingly, not just based on the fiscal gain for themselves either.