[smudgie]

Oh dear, Mr Corbyn appears to have caught the bumbling mumbling figure blindness from Dianne Abbott.
Just watched him live on a telephone interview, when asked about the costing of his free childcare for all 3 and 4 year olds the best he could come up with was " a lot" .
When asked how much it would cost he was totally lost, the person interviewing him mentioned him not being able to give the costing even with the help of an iPad or his notes.

[UserSince2005]

poor man hes too old for this ****, hes memory isnt all there. dont be mean.

[Kazanne]

Embarrassing

[Denver]

Labour fans will still think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread

[Denver]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3552101.html

interview here

[joeysteele]

I wish politicians would just say the actual needed figure is not yet calculated.
All things admittedly cannot be exactly stated.

I for instance know it's coming but have really no idea how much my domestic bills will be exactly.

It's great though as to prediction and vice versa too I admit.
How the same voices jump on anything Labour don't clarify exactly, yet are eager in their support for a woman,who first brings in a social care policy that will have no cap originally.
Then after a few bad headlines changes it to that there will be a cap.
Then cannot even give any single idea of what such a cap will be set at.

They happily ignore and even support that in her but have no tolerance for those they hold a likely personal preference against.
As I do against the heartless cruel Mrs May but at least I admit I do that.

Politicians of all Parties have to learn they need to be on top of every single figure for what they propose.
Because those opposed to them will never remember all the ones they are spot on with and will eagerly jump on the odd few they have little answer to.

Corbyn has informed of the bulk of Labour's policy costs,Mrs May keeps saying we have to wait and see,yet gets away scot-free with that.
Unbelievable.

[Withano]

He didn't know the exact figure to a very specific question and he's still the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a hero.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Withano

He didn't know the exact figure to a very specific question and he's still the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a hero.

he couldn't even take a stab at it, and the question asked was about his manifesto.

[Wizard.]

What a joke and all the comments are like "that's so unfair Tories would just make it up" but if it was a Tory they'd be slagging them off I can't stand this hypocrisy and I can't wait until Theresa wins with her massive landslide to kill off these opinions once and for all.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Riley.

What a joke and all the comments are like "that's so unfair Tories would just make it up" but if it was a Tory they'd be slagging them off I can't stand this hypocrisy and I can't wait until Theresa wins with her massive landslide to kill off these opinions once and for all.

Excellent post Riley.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by smudgie

he couldn't even take a stab at it, and the question asked was about his manifesto.

The greatest thing though is when she said you have an Ipad infront of you he replied can we come back to it later

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The greatest thing though is when she said you have an Ipad infront of you he replied can we come back to it later

The thing is, it was about the actual launch of the childcare policy.

[King Gizzard]

Yet Tories openly admit they have 50 uncosted policies and it's fine and they're not pulled up on it? Jeremy cant recall a figure and everyone's up in arms I don't believe in BBC bias but on this occasion I do.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Yet Tories openly admit they have 50 uncosted policies and it's fine and they're not pulled up on it? Jeremy cant recall a figure and everyone's up in arms I don't believe in BBC bias but on this occasion I do.

It's beyond belief Nathan.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Yet Tories openly admit they have 50 uncosted policies and it's fine and they're not pulled up on it? Jeremy cant recall a figure and everyone's up in arms I don't believe in BBC bias but on this occasion I do.

But they are telling us the truth,people will doubt Corbyn if he says he IS doing something but cant remember the figures,

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Riley.

I can't wait until Theresa wins with her massive landslide to kill off these opinions once and for all.

yaaaasss let's silence all opposition! Crush the saboteurs! Kill democracy!

I won't ever be silenced, no matter how many people vote for this disgusting **** of a woman. I'll continue to call them out for their deliberate and systematic underfunding and undermining of the NHS, their ruinous education policies, their abhorrent mistreatment of the disabled, their three-time lies about immigration targets and 'balancing the budget', their perpetuation of the myth of austerity which makes the worst off pay for a crisis they never caused and conversely their tax cuts for the wealthiest, their commitment to allow an already intrusive media to not be properly regulated in return for a proverbial dick sucking by Dacre and the Murdoch press, their piss taking of their core voter base in pensioners, their bare faced lies on worker's rights they don't care about (and can't be defended affordably), their slashing of police numbers despite being warned it would weaken the prevention and responses to a terror attack, their u-turns on manifesto pledges both in office and on the campaign trail, their bloodthirst for foxes, their wilful ignorance of the siphoning off of profits to tax havens by multinational corporations, their massaging of employment figures so they can increase the number of insecure and zero-hour jobs, their utter ****ing lie in attributing the name 'living wage' to a benchmark that isn't the ****ing living wage, and so on and so ****ing forth.

I do not care how many turkeys vote for Christmas, because one day - even if it's in twenty years - I and all of the others who warned what this appalling party would do to our country will be vindicated. At what cost in the meantime? God only knows, but I'm confident when the effects of Tory austerity starts trickling down to the 'I'm alright Jack' members of the electorate, things will change. Such is the omnipresent poison of neoliberal ideology.

Anyway, this was excruciating to watch but like I said when I defended Tories such as the ****ing Chancellor when he thought the cost of HS2 was £2billion less than what it actually is, politicians are human beings and not robots, even if Theresa 'strong and stable' May seems otherwise. And of course, as Joey has already alluded to; Labour cost their manifesto and Corbyn can't recall a specific figure, the Tories cost nothing and refuse to elaborate when pressed for details. The former is berated, the latter nobody cares. Why? Because the Conservative's invisibility cloak strikes again. It makes me ****ing sick.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But they are telling us the truth,people will doubt Corbyn if he says he IS doing something but cant remember the figures,

How are they telling anyone the truth when they omit the real costs of their policies,give no figures even as to their own caps.
How on earth is that the truth, that is at best being devious and worst downright deceitful.
Crikey,I despair I really do how the Cons get away with it.

For crying out loud be fair,they haven't told the truth as to their policies and what their policies would do for years.

[Tom4784]

You come down hard on this but you give Theresa May a free pass on literally dodging any and all questions she doesn't like, refuses to go into specifics about anything and relies on catchphrases over statements of actual substance? The hypocrisy is real.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But they are telling us the truth,people will doubt Corbyn if he says he IS doing something but cant remember the figures,

That's hypocritical, how can you say they are telling the truth when they are refusing to name specifics or even commit to a solid answer? Both are telltale signs of lying Why are you letting the Tories get away with lying and vague nonsensical manifestos but are damning Jeremy for getting a figure wrong in an interview?

It's beyond hypocrisy.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

How are they telling anyone the truth when they omit the real costs of their policies,give no figures even as to their own caps.
How on earth is that the truth, that is at best being devious and worst downright deceitful.
Crikey,I despair I really do how the Cons get away with it.

For crying out loud be fair,they haven't told the truth as to their policies and what their policies would do for years.

lol,Joey IF they have said they openly admit they have 50 uncosted policies,how is that a lie ? they admitted it,that's all I was trying to get across.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's hypocritical, how can you say they are telling the truth when they are refusing to name specifics or even commit to a solid answer? Both are telltale signs of lying Why are you letting the Tories get away with lying and vague nonsensical manifestos but are damning Jeremy for getting a figure wrong in an interview?

It's beyond hypocrisy.

He didn't get it wrong he didn't know it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

lol,Joey IF they have said they openly admit they have 50 uncosted policies,how is that a lie ? they admitted it,that's all I was trying to get across.

So they are to be trusted because they say they admit they have uncosted policies.
If you were offered holidays that sounded possibly appealing but you couldn't be told the actual full cost of same.
Would that be a holiday you'd jump at,not having any idea of the costings.

They are lying pure and simple and I say again anyone who believes a word this deceitful woman says,namely Mrs May after her record,and from all she stands for and supports I will never understand why they do,or more to the point,why they'd have scrap of admiration and support for her.
I do honestly despair,I really do.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He didn't get it wrong he didn't know it

Have you never ever forgotten something when asked on the spur of the moment.
I certainly have.

He didn't know it you say,the near whole Con manifesto is filled with policies they don't know the real costs of,however I think the Cons know most of them but dare not reveal them for the chaos they know their plans will bring to those who will be affected by them.
This set of Cons being devious,deceitful liars very adept at doing so and conning voters too.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They are lying pure and simple and I say again anyone who believes a word this deceitful woman says,namely Mrs May after her record,and from all she stands for and supports I will never understand why they do,or more to the point,why they'd have scrap of admiration and support for her.
I do honestly despair,I really do.

Judging by the Tory supporters around here it would appear that they're very easily fooled. If they're lied to from a very slightly different angle they're convinced that they're being told the truth!

I feel your despair Joey.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He didn't get it wrong he didn't know it

So why are you going in on him but ignoring the fact that Theresa May doesn't actually say anything when she speaks? You tear him apart over an honest mistake when he has typically been more candid and open with the workings of his manifesto when you are in support of Theresa May's when it contains nothing but vague half promises and outs for her to u-turn when the manifesto no longer suits her.