[Denver]

Heidi Allen doesn’t see Theresa May staying as Prime Minister for longer than six months, the Conservative MP for South Cambridgeshire has said.

In a frank interview with LBC, Ms Allen said she does not think Ms May will remain Prime Minister "indefinitely" and her time at Number 10 could even be a "period of transition" as the UK negotiates Brexit.

"If this was any other election in any other time in our history you could say yes the Prime Minister needs to stand down, but this is different of course because we are about to start negotiating Brexit so that puts an entirely different complexion on that," she told LBC's Iain Dale.

"We do need a Prime Minister at this moment."

In reference to Ms May's speech outside Downing Street, Ms Allen, who was returned to the House of Commons with a majority of 15,952, added: "It's almost like she's unaware of what's happened in the past 24 hours.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news...rview-13165429

[bitontheslide]

She certainly wont fight the next election, the tories don't accept failure

[Kizzy]

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

[JTM45]

Good riddance! Byyyyeeee!

The way she conducted herself through this whole debacle (that SHE, against all the rules of common sense, initiated!) was absolutely shameful and an insult to the Great British public!

I actually think we should rename this section of the Forum as ''The Jeremy Corbyn Serious News & Debate Suite'' in honor of his truly fantastic performance against all the odds and nefarious slander. Other Party 'leaders' need to take notes on how it's done.

[Kizzy]

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Yet another U turn, not a word will be said about this because they are English terrorists who never got any condemnation in the British press, they were only killing Irish Catholics so no need to report that

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

May's alliance now is out of neccesity. Corbyn's alliance is through choice and has been going on for years, decades. If you can't see the difference?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Thanks for that link Kizzy. A lot of media outlets have egg on their face.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thanks for that link Kizzy. A lot of media outlets have egg on their face.

Not least the Canary.

[DemolitionRed]

Here’s an extract from May’s speech in front of Number 10: (pointed out by Simon Cohen is a British social commentator)

"Cracking down on the ideology of Islamist extremism and all those who support it and giving the police and the authorities the powers they need to keep our country safe.

The government I lead will put fairness and opportunity at the heart of everything we do so that we will fulfil the promise of Brexit together, and over the next five years build a country in which no one and no community is left behind, a country in which prosperity and opportunity are shared across this United Kingdom."

Notice anything?

She also uses this phrase: "build a country in which no one and no community is left behind"

This is EXACTLY the wording Corbyn has been using over the last two years

Youtube video

Are the right wing political press going to point this out?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Here’s an extract from May’s speech in front of Number 10: (pointed out by Simon Cohen is a British social commentator)

"Cracking down on the ideology of Islamist extremism and all those who support it and giving the police and the authorities the powers they need to keep our country safe.

The government I lead will put fairness and opportunity at the heart of everything we do so that we will fulfil the promise of Brexit together, and over the next five years build a country in which no one and no community is left behind, a country in which prosperity and opportunity are shared across this United Kingdom."

Notice anything?

She also uses this phrase: "build a country in which no one and no community is left behind"

This is EXACTLY the wording Corbyn has been using over the last two years

Youtube video

Are the right wing political press going to point this out?

I would say ballony if you tried to tell me Corbyn has never uttered a phrase that May has. So if Corbyn has said something no-one else can.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not least the Canary.

What's the Canary

[Oliver_W]

I see her as a bit of a necessary evil at the moment - unless some random backbencher or minor Cabinet member comes from the woodwork, there's just no suitable alternative right now.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

All PMs are unelected. They represent the largest party, the UK doesn't vote for the Prime Minister

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Mind you if she sidesteps does that mean essentially we could have an unelected Bojo for the next 5yrs?... :/

I actually think the Cons may not think of looking to Buffoon Boris really.

He bottled the challenge last year and in a really humiliating way, stabbed by Gove,yet Boris threw the towel in.

He looks on paper as much a liability as Mrs May has proved to be.
The first overall majority won by the Cons since 1992,nearly a quarter of a century.
Blown out and lost by her really shocking judgement and leadership, just 2 years later.

Having the Cons going from being a majority govt to have to near plead for full regular support from the DUP,of all Parties.

Johnson may be a charismatic stronger cabinet Minister but could prove another liability like Mrs May, in the real top job.

[Vicky.]

Of course the Tories will oust her. The election has made her incompetence even clearer and the Conservative party are ruthless. I feel rather sorry for her in a way as she was kind of shoehorned into a role that she was not ready for and might not have even really wanted and now shes floundering around getting worse and worse. All whilst repeating 'strong and stable' though of course.

However, I doubt anyone wants to step up and take over the Brexit thing. Even though apparently its David Davis actually doing the Brexit negotiations as Brexit secretary. But May is the face of it. And May will be blamed when it all goes tits up. THEN she will be replaced, once its all done with so she can be forever blamed for it.

Though everyone seems to forget it was Cameron who started this all. He really is getting away with it

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I actually think the Cons may not think of looking to Buffoon Boris really.

He bottled the challenge last year and in a really humiliating way, stabbed by Gove,yet Boris threw the towel in.

He looks on paper as much a liability as Mrs May has proved to be.
The first overall majority won by the Cons since 1992,nearly a quarter of a century.
Blown out and lost by her really shocking judgement and leadership, just 2 years later.

Having the Cons going from being a majority govt to have to near plead for full regular support from the DUP,of all Parties.

Johnson may be a charismatic stronger cabinet Minister but could prove another liability like Mrs May, in the real top job.

Tell you what, I actually thought Boris might be a good asset for the Tories. After having seen him run like **** from reality, when he had a chance to lead, I see him now as a little coward who is more about image than anything else.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

May's alliance now is out of neccesity. Corbyn's alliance is through choice and has been going on for years, decades. If you can't see the difference?

Not forgetting Corbyn's alliance was whilst his friends were bombing innocent men, women and children in both Northern Ireland and mainland Britain.
The DUP are legitimate members of the U.K. Parliament, as of course are Sinn Fein if they ever decide to take up their seats in parliament.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Of course the Tories will oust her. The election has made her incompetence even clearer and the Conservative party are ruthless. I feel rather sorry for her in a way as she was kind of shoehorned into a role that she was not ready for and might not have even really wanted and now shes floundering around getting worse and worse. All whilst repeating 'strong and stable' though of course.

However, I doubt anyone wants to step up and take over the Brexit thing. Even though apparently its David Davis actually doing the Brexit negotiations as Brexit secretary. But May is the face of it. And May will be blamed when it all goes tits up. THEN she will be replaced, once its all done with so she can be forever blamed for it.

Though everyone seems to forget it was Cameron who started this all. He really is getting away with it

Didn't Cameron have to call a referendam though as Farage had wanted a vote on it? Cameron wanted to remain so when the result was to leave he would have been a hypocrite to stay surely.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Didn't Cameron have to call a referendam though as Farage had wanted a vote on it? Cameron wanted to remain so when the result was to leave he would have been a hypocrite to stay surely.

Yep, he stuck to his promise and gave us the referendum, I doubt he thought that it would be a vote to leave, he had no option but to leave as it would have gone against the grain too much for him.
Plus he was already intending not to do the full term, so early retirement for him.
I don't think Theresa May will be able to stay much longer, she called the election and it backfired on her, heaven only knows who will come forward for the job.
Please don't let it be BOJO.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Didn't Cameron have to call a referendam though as Farage had wanted a vote on it? Cameron wanted to remain so when the result was to leave he would have been a hypocrite to stay surely.

Cameron only gave a referendum as he was scared UKIP would nick Tory votes. I bet he regrets it with how it turned out. Yet again breathtaking arrogance that the vote would go his way :S I guess it would be quite hypocritical to stay (just as hypocritical as May taking the job tbh when she wanted to stay too) but at the same time, he should have had a plan for if we voted leave. That was the problem. They all thought they would get a stay vote so it would shut everyone up as the vote had been done, but nothing would actually change. If you give a vote to the people, you need to be prepared for all possible outcomes surely...especially for something as big as that!


On a separate note
I hear on the news today that 2 of Theresa Mays cabinet are getting the blame for the poor election campaign and have resigned.

[Jack_]

She's a total laughing stock. To lose your parliamentary majority in an election you promised wouldn't be called against an opposition you expected and hoped to sink into oblivion is so embarrassing it is beyond all comprehension. And it couldn't have happened to a nastier woman.

As some commentators were remarking on election night, this is twice now that the Self Servatives have put their own party's vanity before the interests of the country. Cameron gambled on the EU referendum and lost. May gambled on an early election and lost. Are they a political party or a casino? The fact that they're now in effect forming a coalition of chaos with terrorist sympathising bigots is a display of hysterical irony that I'm revelling in. This reprehensible party has once again been exposed for the power thirsty cretins they are, with its leader squatting in number 10 and only offering condolences to the ministers and MPs who lost their seats when pressed to in an interview. This despicable, arrogant cunt wasted £100m of public money in an election that didn't need to be called, and one she couldn't lose, and now her attempt at securing a 'strong and stable' government has left this country in limbo and chaos as we embark upon the most important negotiations in modern British political history. And she has the gall to stand outside number ten and use the threat of Islamic fundamentalism to ingratiate herself with the electorate. She and her disgusting party make me physically ****ing repulsed.

[Vicky.]

The election was all about her, I did notice that. As if she was a one man band or something. I don't think I heard the party mentioned at all. Especially when she was on about Brexit. She kept putting the 'funny' image of Corbyn at negotiations in peoples heads. But never seemed to mention that its actually Davis who will be doing negotiations and such as Brexit secretary. Nor that it would be (IMO the very very capable|) Keir Starmer if Labour were 'in'

I am sure most of the party aren't happy with her. I do expect to see more resignations in the coming days tbh.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has there been any word on the blatant hypocrisy?...

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/09/...rorists-video/

Only yours.

Corbyn is well known in N Ireland as an IRA sympathiser.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html

Do you condemn his links to terrorism? His IRA buddies with links to Sinn Fein including their leader McGuiness killed and maimed thousands of innocent people, including women and children.
Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to Sinn Fein and their buddies the murderous IRA.

Educate yourself before you pontificate about a country you haven't lived in all your life like I have. Perhaps if you had friends killed by the IRA you wouldn't think Corbyn such a great guy. That great guy spoke at rallies every year commemorating the loss of IRA killers. He makes me sick.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yep, he stuck to his promise and gave us the referendum, I doubt he thought that it would be a vote to leave, he had no option but to leave as it would have gone against the grain too much for him.
Plus he was already intending not to do the full term, so early retirement for him.
I don't think Theresa May will be able to stay much longer, she called the election and it backfired on her, heaven only knows who will come forward for the job.
Please don't let it be BOJO.

What about David Davies?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

Much as I dislike the DUP, they are nothing compared to Sinn Fein and their buddies the murderous IRA.

OK I am still reading up about Irish Politics. But am watching an argument between some Irish friends about Sin Fein and the DUP and I am seeing..

As a female catholic in NI I must say it's an unbelievable situation, most people in Northern Ireland accept the DUP have terrorist links. Although I do agree that this spotlight might do something to help drag those dinosaurs into the reality of modern life. It does seem as though people in England didn't care about NI politics until now, I'm actually glad they will be scrutinised.

What is craziest is people saying that the DUP are not as bad as Sinn Fein because what the IRA were doing was worse.

I dare you to go to a Catholic area of NI and say that.

Read up on the **** the loyalist groups did during the Troubles before you start mouthing off about who was worse.

There are literally photos of Peter Robinson, who until very recently was the leader of the DUP, wearing paramilitary gear and leading the Ulster Resistance.

How the hell are the DUP, then, not linked to terrorism? Do you think the Ulster Resistance were just a friendly bunch of fellas who happened to enjoy running around in army gear for the lols?

And by getting into bed with them, I'm afraid TM does indeed condone terrorism.

Oh, but when loyalists do it, it's not terrorism, is it? It's 'defending your country' or 'refusing to surrender' something.

Seems to...depend on which side of the coin you are on?